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Arpeggio exercise
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mark indigo
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 RE: Arpeggio exercise (in reply to kozz)
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Have you got the basic patterns together really well? Try some basic patterns.
As well as PIMA and PAMI which you probably know, try 2 other combinations, the first starts PI and then AM, so all together PIAM.
The second starts PA and then IM, so all together PAIM.
And then there are 2 more combinations starting PM. The first is PMIA, and the second is PMAI.
to recap,
PIMA, PIAM,
PAMI, PAIM,
PMIA, PMAI
I like to work on really basic stuff like this as it's a really good base for doing more complex stuff. To really isolate the technique and work on just the right hand i also like to use really simple stuff with my left hand, like just a basic E chord/E shape. I do slide it up and down the neck a bit, but keep to that shape.
Another thing i do with it is to practise it with different rhythmic combinations, 1, 2, 3, and 4 notes per beat. Although 4 notes per beat is fastest, playing these 4 note patterns 3 notes per beat can be tricky to coordinate rhythmically.
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Date Mar. 27 2009 15:27:09
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ToddK
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RE: Arpeggio exercise (in reply to gato)
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quote:
Play lots and lots of classical/flamenco guitar,
This can be a bit of a dangerous suggestion.
Now that im playing conventional, im realizing that, in particular, the arpeggio
technique for each style is pretty significantly different.
The profile of the right hand is lower, and more perpendicular to the strings
in flamenco.
Classical players use a higher profile, and play more off the left edge of
the nail.
Classical rest stroke is also very different from flamenco picado.
The angle of the thumb is also a big deal. The tone you're shooting for is
very different in flamenco than it is in classical. In flamenco, you want the
thumb to slide from flesh to string, so the nail smacks(clicks) into the string.
That is the traditional sound. It does not sound flamenco with out that sound.
In classical, the thumb has to sound very smooth.
So if you want to play both styles, you are unavoidably in the situation of
"serving 2 masters".
In my opinion, you dont want to attempt to learn both simultaneously.
These two right hand profiles will be fighting against each other.
They are not nearly as; so called "parallel" as many people think. They are
actually quite different.
So be aware of this. Technique is key to getting
the right sound, and flamenco and classical tone are 2 very different things.
Mastering a guitar "Style" is virtually the same thing as mastering a guitar "Sound"
So decide which one you want to take on, and focus only on that for a
good amount of time.
The big picture/point im trying to make here is, classical and flamenco are both
played on a nylon string, with the fingers, and even mostly have the same sequences (pamimap, pami, pima,) BUT, they are not the same thing.
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Date Mar. 27 2009 20:41:49
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mark indigo
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RE: Arpeggio exercise (in reply to kozz)
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quote:
I also read that the fingers should be relaxed, if suppose this will come overtime when doin the exercises a lot? Is it actually because I am not confidend on hittin the strings on the right spot that tension is build up in the fingers? I notice that I am "scared" to move my hand when the arpeggio actually works.
if you are practising arpegios and it feels stiff or tense you are probably trying to go too fast, you are likely "recruiting" additional unnecessary muscles which are not needed for the movements you want to make, and you are not coordinationg the movements correctly, in that the appropriate muscles are not contracting and relaxing in the correct sequence.
when you use a muscle you do so by contracting it. it is not "relaxed" while it is contracting.... when you stop using it, ie. you turn it off, it will no longer be contracting and will return to it's resting length, ie. it will be relaxed....
....when muscles are actually working they are not supposed to be relaxed....
.... most muscles in the body (and i don't have any outside my body....  ) are grouped in pairs, with one flexing a joint and the other extending it. When one muscle works/contracts to flex a joint (such as the bicep flexing the elbow), the opposing muscle (in this case the tricep) should be turned off/relaxed otherwise the movement will be stiff, or not happen at all, and you might even feel "tense" (it might take several minutes, hours, days, weeks, months or even years for this kind of malcoordinated movement behaviour to register as feeling tense tho'....  ). When the opposing muscle (in this example the tricep) works/contracts to extend the joint (in this case the elbow) the opposite one (the bicep) should likewise be turned off/relaxed.
it's a while since i studied the anatomy, so the examples of muscles and joints might noth be spot on, but the principles and ideas are sound.
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Date Mar. 28 2009 14:26:01
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