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ricecrackerphoto

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metronome suggestions 
in the market now for a new metronome. after visiting guitar center yesterday, my major complaint about all the new ones i tried is that they are not loud enough.

i don't want any fancy dr. beat mix mix master stuff, i just need a simple loud metronome with an accented beat.

what do you guys use? my good old sabine was great but it might be officially dead.

doug

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mrMagenta

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RE: metronome suggestions (in reply to ricecrackerphoto) 
I'm thinking of getting myself an old school pendulum type thing that doesn't use batteries (there's a small one by wittner that fits in a pocket). To me, the most important aspects are precise timekeeping and a pleasant tick (and reliability). I've tried digital ones but in the long run I get annoyed by the blip.

I prefer not having any accents in the tick, that way i can feel the accents in 4s, 3s, 2s etc. When I want to play over accented beat I put on a suiting compas track through a program such as amazing slowdowner or transcribe so I can regulate tempo, downside to that is that I need to be at my computer or burn fixed bpm tracks on CD.
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at_leo_87

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RE: metronome suggestions (in reply to mrMagenta) 
i've been thinking about getting this one
http://www.stringsbymail.com/catalog/accessories/details/TM40.asp

the old school pendulum style seems cool too. but i've read that some of them can be unreliable. even the higher end ones and especially the lower end ones.

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kovachian

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RE: metronome suggestions (in reply to ricecrackerphoto) 
Maybe this?

Óscar Herrero Metrónomo Flamenco

This costs a lot, but you seem to get a lot too. I've been thinking of springing for one.

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erikgran

 

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RE: metronome suggestions (in reply to ricecrackerphoto) 
I use an "analog" metronomes.net/WitMini.htm">Wittner Taktell Super Mini. I find that it's much easier to follow, since the "click" is somehow more distinct, and the physical movement of the pendulum also seems to contribute to give the time.
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srshea

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RE: metronome suggestions (in reply to ricecrackerphoto) 
I've got a Sabine Zipbeat that I'm crazy about. It's definitely non-fancy, but you can accent the second, third, fourth, fifth, or sixth beat (or no beat at all), it's really easy to adjust the settings without too much hassle, and it cost nineteen bucks.

The only drawback is that it's not particularly loud. If I want to get real specific and serious about working on some rhythm thing then I'll put some foam-sponge under the strings.

So, I highly recommend that one, though it sounds like it might not be what you're looking for....

Zipbeat
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srshea

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RE: metronome suggestions (in reply to ricecrackerphoto) 
Oh, and I've heard mixed reviews regarding the mechanical metronome's long-term reliability. Something about them wearing out and losing their accuracy. Last time I tried to buy one I was talked out of it by the music store guy....
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Ron.M

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RE: metronome suggestions (in reply to kovachian) 
quote:

This costs a lot, but you seem to get a lot too. I've been thinking of springing for one.


Hi Kovachian and Doug,

I know this may seem a bit off the subject, but I used to use an old Sony Walkman (cassette player) to learn falsetas. It had the advantage of having a speed adjustment, which I modified to give a much greater range.

The rubber idlers etc are now totally worn out, so I was looking for an alternative.

A couple of years ago my daughter bought a cheap personal mp3 player from Amazon at about £15. It had 250MB so could store lots of songs.

However her mobile phone now has an inbuilt mp3 player so she no longer uses it.

I played around with it a bit and found that it too had a speed control on it, which still maintained the original pitch, so what I do now is take something I want to learn, adjust the speed and pitch on Amazing Slowdowner and download it to the mp3 player via the USB port.

I could do the same with a compás loop or metronome click too.

The advantage of wearing light headphones or ear inserts is that you can hear the falseta or click or loop AND hear the guitar at the same time without driving everybody around you mad.

My only complaint is that it is PINK!!!

cheers,

Ron
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ricecrackerphoto

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RE: metronome suggestions (in reply to ricecrackerphoto) 
i did have the sabine zipbeat but it appears that it does not get along very well with water. waiting for it to dry out and see if it will come back to life. it was a great one for years.

i just want something simple: loud and an accented beat.

its actually tough to find. all the new ones look like iPhones or those automated robot floor cleaners.

doug

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 16 2009 8:48:44
 
mrMagenta

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RE: metronome suggestions (in reply to ricecrackerphoto) 
quote:

I use an "analog" Wittner Taktell Super Mini. I find that it's much easier to follow, since the "click" is somehow more distinct, and the physical movement of the pendulum also seems to contribute to give the time.


That's the one I've been looking to buy. I haven't read anything about them loosing precision, but I'll look into it before I order one.
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srshea

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RE: metronome suggestions (in reply to ricecrackerphoto) 
Have you thought about amplification? If you're having trouble finding something that meets these criteria you've laid out, it could be that such a thing just isn't out there.

So, to use the Zipbeat again as an example, it's got a headphone out, so it shouldn't be too hard to rig up some kind of external amplification scenario. A bit of a pain in the ass, and maybe a little annoying to have to enhance your metronome in such a way, but it still might be one of the simpler solutions.

And so long as you don't take it into the shower with you, it should work fine. I'm a firm believer in regular, disciplined use of the metronome, but you gotta draw the line somewhere...
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 16 2009 12:10:26
 
Ron.M

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RE: metronome suggestions (in reply to mrMagenta) 
I can't help but think you guys from another generation always need some kind of "gizmo" to satisfy basic problems.

As a post WWII kid myself AND a Scotsman to boot, I tend to be a bit more careful before parting with cash!

(No worries however....ANYTHING which will help the Economy just now is very much appreciated!)

As I've said before, I bet some of those guys in Jerez and Andalucia could find compás and a funky beat in a dripping tap.

cheers,

Ron
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alex_lord

 

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RE: metronome suggestions (in reply to Ron.M) 
quote:

ORIGINAL: Ron.M

As I've said before, I bet some of those guy in Jerez and Andalucia could find compás and a funky beat in a dripping tap.



I'm sure they can, but I couldn't naturally find compas even if it rhytmically slapped me in the face.

Seriously though, I think metronomes are great for practicing. I think my playing has improved dramatically since I've started using one regularly.
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