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odiemann

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ANITIGUA CASA RICARDO SANCHIS

Thanks everyone here for the positive information I have garnered in the past months, I now have a real question.

Would a label from the above builder have "made in Spain" on it? and how often do fake labels show up. this one has no signature also

Thanks in advance

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 21 2007 2:54:03

Richie

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RE: ANTIGUA CASA RICARDO SANCHIS (in reply to odiemann)

Ricardo Sanchis Carpio is a very large supplier of guitars in Valencia, Spain. He has a large factory that manufactures a wide range of classical and flamenco guitar models from cheap to expensive. They are sold under the Ricardo Sanchis and Ricardo Sanchis Carpio label. Ricardo Sanchis and Ricardo Sanchis Carpio are the same person. Carpio is Ricardo Sanchis's mothers maiden name.

In Spain, because of the similarity of family names. people add their mothers maiden name to their family name (Given name, Fathers family, mothers family).
It gets confusing because some makers only use their fathers surname and drop the mother's surname. Conversely, some guitarmakers will often add their mothers name to the label to link themselves to a guitarmaking dynasty (eg nephews to uncles)

There is a longstanding rumor that Ricardo Sanchis also supplies flamenco guitars for Conde Hermanos. This has not been confirmed, but the rumor persists because his 1a extra flamenco sounds very conde like but at a much lower price.

I believe that he signs all of his higher models: the 1a concierto classical and the 1a extra classical. The 1a and 1a extra classical guitars are french polished. I am not sure about the 1a and 1a extra flamenco.

RS also makes a 1ab classical model, which I believe is not signed and is finished in lacquer. It is now sold by his sons label. It is a very nice guitar. One recently sold on ebay for $800

RS is now semi retired and has "sold" his company to his sons. The new label is Hnos (hermanos) Sanchis Lopez. Ricardo still makes guitars but now only produces very high end models under his name.

Made in Spain is not an indicator of quality or lack of quality
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The country of origin label -- Made in Spain or Made in Espana -- is required by US law. In 1891, the McKinley Tariff Act went into effect requiring imported goods to be permanently marked with the country of origin. In 1921 the Act was amended to require the addition of the words "made in".

Hope this helps.
Richie

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 21 2007 4:27:41

Richie

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RE: ANITIGUA CASA RICARDO SANCHIS (in reply to odiemann)

Fake Labels
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Fake labels can be a problem on some higher end models. Conde Hermanos, on their website, recently reported that they have seen a number of guitars sold on ebay in recent months with fake Conde labels.

Misreporting label information is also a problem. During the 1970s Sherry Brenner, sold guitars labeled Marcelino Barbero that were made in Japan. In recent years, I have seen some sellers try to sell these guitar as authentic Marcelo Barbero Jr. Guitars. Marcelo Jr was the son of the great luthier Marcelo Barbero, a disciple of Santos Hernandez. Marcelo Jr. studied guitar making with Archangel Fernandez, and always went by the name Marcel Barbero Jr. and not the nickname Marcelino. If my memory serves me, Marcelo Jr. sold many guitars through Archangel Fernandez's workshop.

Misreporting label information for Spanish guitars is a problem because in Spain there is a commonality of family surnames. As a result, many makers add their mother maiden's to distinguish who they are, while other guitar makers add their mother's name to link themselves to a guitarmaking dynasty (e.g. nephews to uncles).

About a year ago, a dutch seller on ebay, Bruunari, sold a number of guitars labeled Jose Rodriguez, as guitars made by Jose Rodriguez Alamo of Cordoba, Andalucia Spain. Bruunari's guitars, however, were actually low quality factory guitars made by a Jose Rodriguez in Moraira, Spain which is in Alicante, Spain on the Costa Blanca. Jose Rodriguez is equivalent to John Brown or John Smith in the English speaking world.

Jose "Pepe" Rodriguez Alamo was the son of great Cordoban luthier Miguel Rodriguez Seranno and grandson of the great, great cordoban luthier Miguel Rodriguez Sr. Pepe was a professional flamenco player, a professor of guitar at the local university and a luthier. All of the Rodriguez dynasty luthiers did not use their mother's maiden name on the guitar label, just the Rodriguez surname.
Richie

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 21 2007 5:26:21