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Gecko

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Glope - "Gulp!" 

Last week I decided it was time to start to learn the Glope. I choose to start with a p downstroke and a simultaneous glope with a. I figured this would be the easiest to start with as it is similar to doing a pinch stroke. Now, I can normally chew gum and walk at the same time but for the life of me I don’t seem to be able to do the glope simultaneous with a clean full p down stroke. Is learning the simultaneous Glope sort of similar to learning barres, that is it’s a matter of time, practice and patience? I have not seen a whole lot of discussion here, or anywhere on the web, concerning the Glope.

Any tips, advice or links to instruction would be appreciated. BTW I’m using GM’s Method Book, vol. 1 Lesson 3 as a primer.

Thanks!
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RE: Glope - "Gulp!" (in reply to Gecko

I think 'i downstroke + a golpe' is probably the most natural and perhaps easier to learn.

For thumb with golpe, I'll describe how it looks for me:

First off, make sure your hand is in 'thumb postion" (i.e. alzapua position) where your wrist is a bit out and your hand is lower. Rest your second finger lightly on the sound board and your thumb should be above the 6th string. Basic thumb position really. Now imagine that you have a the lid of a jar between your thumb and 'a' finger (about 3-4 inches apart). Now imagine twisting that jar lid quicky clockwise. Your thumb should go down across the strings and your a finger should move back and down and hit the sound board. I don't have a guitar with me but this should be the movement. Notice that it is not two movements (i.e. thumb stroke and tap) but rather one guesture. There is a little turn of the wrist too. All this should be loose and natural feeling. Once you have that concept, start moving the thumb in toward the 'a' finger as it moves down the strings. I believe this is considered more correct and is better for golpes in alzapua.


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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 17 2006 17:39:43
 
XXX

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RE: Glope - "Gulp!" (in reply to Gecko

Hm, golpe is not a real problem. Only a matter of weeks. I even would say there is some point where you start doing the golpes automatically, because they feel naturally right there, when you compose something for example.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 17 2006 17:48:28
 
Miguel de Maria

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RE: Glope - "Gulp!" (in reply to Gecko

Sevilla teacher Tino van der Smaan told me to hit the golpe first, then the strum. Eventually they blend together.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 17 2006 18:10:44
 
edgar884

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RE: Glope - "Gulp!" (in reply to Gecko

I'm no specialist but doing remates for hours helped me get one of the golpes down. And then a golpe on thumb downstroke.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 19 2006 18:40:39
 
henrym3483

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RE: Glope - "Gulp!" (in reply to edgar884

my teacher told me to get a box, and try to hit the box with the thumb and a finger at the same same untill you can get a farily audible pop(you can do this on the guitar box aswell) then try it on the strings, the solea remate is fairly good to try this on.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 20 2006 9:23:13
 
fevictor

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RE: Glope - "Gulp!" (in reply to Gecko

I was told to think of the pulgar-golpe as if I was turning a door handle. It worked for me.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 20 2006 16:57:01
 
fevictor

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RE: Glope - "Gulp!" (in reply to Gecko

By the way...can someone tell me what a remate is?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 20 2006 16:59:17
 
henrym3483

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RE: Glope - "Gulp!" (in reply to fevictor

remate is the end of a phrase, i think its called the llmada as well.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 20 2006 18:20:37
 
Ricardo

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RE: Glope - "Gulp!" (in reply to henrym3483

Llamada is a "call" or signal that there is going to be a change. It is a rhythmic thing that the dancer or guitarist can do. It can be a call to change feels, or to signal a speed up, or the end of a section, falseta, or letra. It may or may not contain a "remate" which is as you say, the rhythmic ending to a phrase. In 12 beat forms it is when you stop or cut on 10, more so the stuff that leads to that stop. (usually beats 7-10 or so). Corte is a literal cut or stopping point of the rhythm, can be any where in the compas (the compas may or may not continue in silence). Llamadas typically start on 12-1 counts, depends. Desplante is a specific type of llamada, though I don't really use these terms much with dancers or singers. As long as you can recognize the rhythmic cues, you don't need the terms to accomp. well.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 21 2006 15:23:46
 
Gecko

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RE: Glope - "Gulp!" (in reply to Gecko

Thanks to all. Very helpful suggestions.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 21 2006 15:28:17
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