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BarkellWH
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RE: modern vs traditional flamenco!! (in reply to Stu)
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Good post, Stu. Reminds me once again why I prefer "traditional" (Sabicas, in particular, although Nino Ricardo is hard to beat) over "modern." At least Diego del Morao did not have a flute, a harmonica, or a bass. Bill
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Date Oct. 13 2015 21:15:27
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BarkellWH
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RE: modern vs traditional flamenco!! (in reply to DavRom)
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is a ukulele ok? or do i need a Conde to be for real pure flamenco? i don't think it's about the instruments (tools). isn't it about the music itself? As one who prefers "traditional" flamenco, I would not suggest a ukulele, and you are assuming a lot by asking if one needs a Conde. I have never owned a Conde, although I have nothing against them. I am perfectly happy with my Gerundino, as well as a couple of others I own, including a Manuel Adalid Viviana blanca. To say you "don't think it's about the instruments (tools)." And then ask "Isn't it about the music itself?" is a non-sequitur. The instruments (tools), in large part, determine how the music sounds. Big difference in flamenco played on a guitar by a competent tocaor alone, or perhaps with a cajon, and flamenco backed by a flute and a bass. Yes, it is about the music itself, and if your cup of tea is flamenco with other, non-traditional instruments as part of it, have at it, my friend. But don't expect others to necessarily share your taste. All I'm doing is responding to Stu's posted videos of Nino Ricardo and Diego del Morao and sharing my taste. I'm not asking you or anyone else to agree with it. Bill
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Date Oct. 13 2015 23:18:13
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Leñador
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RE: modern vs traditional flamenco!! (in reply to Ahmed Flamenco)
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I've got a good food anology for what's flamenco. Let's go with tacos. It's got a corn tortilla and it's got meat, it's a taco! It's got corn tortilla, meat, onion, cilantro, and salsa, still a taco! It's got a flour tortilla meat, onion, cilantro, and salsa, Hmmmmm, some may say taco but gringa is probably more correct. It's got corn tortilla and meat but it's rolled and fried..... Taco dorado... Corn tortilla, meat, broccoli, oyster sauce, and skittles....not a taco where I come from. At what point is it no longer a taco?? Tough to say exactly, depends on who you ask, although I'd say I trust a random Mexicans opinion more than a random Minnesotan, and a Mexican chef even more than a random Mexican. One thing's for sure. Corn tortilla and meat is a PURE taco. I want a taco......
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Date Oct. 13 2015 23:24:34
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BarkellWH
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RE: modern vs traditional flamenco!! (in reply to Leñador)
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It's got a corn tortilla and it's got meat, it's a taco! But to be a real taco, true to its origins, it must be shredded beef, not ground beef, not even carne asado! And you're on the mark about corn tortillas. Flour tortillas are so bland I don't know why anyone would eat them when corn tortillas are available. Although an Anglo, my mother grew up in Mexico and only came to the States when she was 16. (My grandfather was superintendent of the Union Pacific Railroad in Mexico, based near Guaymas, until the railroads and oil companies were nationalized in the 1930s and they moved to the U.S.) As a result, I had the good fortune of growing up in a bi-lingual household, and the even greater good fortune of having tacos for dinner every Sunday evening, fixed with loving care by my mother in true Mexican fashion. Bill
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Date Oct. 14 2015 2:41:51
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