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Yamaha CG171SF or other entry level flamenco guitar in Europe?
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Hibiki
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Joined: Jan. 19 2012
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Hey everyone, first post here! I'm looking to learn to play flamenco (having played mostly electric guitar) and while I own a classical guitar, I wouldn't be comfortable modifying it for flamenco and would prefer buying one that is made for it and either keep my classical intact or sell it if I decide my flamenco guitar will be enough for everything I want to play. So I have been looking through my options here (in Denmark), and there aren't many. The only flamenco guitar I've found have been Alhambra series, and not very cheap at that. I don't have a set amount of money I'm willing to spend, really I just want good value for my money. Of course I won't buy a professional level guitar at this stage, but I'd rather pay a bit extra to have one that'll last me a long time. I've read good things about the Yamaha guitar though, so I've been trying to look for one online with no luck. I also heard good things about Francisco Navarro Student, but it's a bit more expensive and I also haven't been able to find it in Europe so far. If I could find a reasonably priced one, I'd rather pay for that then buy an overpriced one from a brand I don't know only to replace it immediately. Can any other Europeans help me in the right direction to find a solid flamenco guitar for someone new to flamenco? I've searched the forums, but so far I haven't been able to figure out what to begin with. I hope some of you here can help me out. Also if anyone can recommend one of the many online teaching options (preferably cheap) that would be awesome too. Thanks everyone, looking forward to sticking around here and learn everything I can!
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Date Jan. 19 2012 16:36:48
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silddx
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Joined: May 8 2012
From: London
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RE: Yamaha CG171SF or other entry le... (in reply to Hibiki)
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After thinking I might get the Yam 182SF, yesterday I bought a Finlayson Electro-Classical cutaway. £599 from Guitar Guitar in Epsom. He's a Scottish guitar repairer who has guitars built to his design in China and finished and set up by him in Glasgow. Solid Rosewood back and sides, solid cedar top, ebony fingerboard and tuners, Fishman preamp. It looks lovely too. I tried a £1500 Almansa flamenco and this Finlayson had it beat, as bright sounding, although warmer and with longer note release and with similar action (about 4mm at the 12th - too high!). I needed a good all-rounder, not just for learning Flamenco, but for gigging and recording in one of my bands. It's a great guitar, very nicely built. Excellent flight-worthy hard case too. I will get it fettled - have a bone nut and saddle fitted and the action lowered. The neck relief is fine, I have already shaved the saddle by about 1.5mm, but I think it can go lower. I know this guitar is probably anathema to most of you, but I'm a relative beginner to flamenco and I wanted something good to learn on as well as the other applications I need it for. I'll save my cash for a really nice flamenco instrument when I'm worthy of such. This is an excellent guitar for the money and I heartily recommend it as an alternative to the usual options. http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/classical_guitars_detail.asp?stock=11110513134088
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Date May 14 2012 14:01:59
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shaun
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Joined: May 11 2012
From: Edmonton, Canada
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RE: Yamaha CG171SF or other entry le... (in reply to hopkinWFG)
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Sycamore is a cheaper alternative to cypress for flamenco guitars. They say it has similar tonal qualities as cypress. I find that it lacks the power, projection, and focus of sound that cypress has. It's a decent alternative for a beginner. In a lot of beginner guitars, the back and sides will be laminated woods. Sometimes the tops will be too. Avoid guitars with laminated tops. Get a guitar with a solid spruce or cedar top. Preferably, the back and sides would be solid wood as well. I've played some Alhambra, Almansa, and Yamaha guitars. I didn't really like the Yamaha much though I don't remember which model it was. I tried a few Alhambra guitars and found that the necks didn't feel right. They felt like they may have been shaped for speed and just didn't feel comfortable to play. I ended up going with the Almansa as my first flamenco guitar. It has served me well over the years and I still use it as my backup/campfire/open stage guitar. If you go that way I would recommend spending the extra money for the 447 model rather than the 413 model. The action on the 413 is a bit high for flamenco. Plus, the 447 has solid cypress back and sides and a solid spruce top. But, as That_Guy said, you have to try it for yourself.
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Date Jun. 10 2012 22:25:04
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