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guitarbuddha

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Sabicas on top form

Lots of textures in the buleria that aren't used any more but probably well worth reinvestigation.

more from the same period.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 21 2013 0:00:07

Richard Jernigan

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From: Austin, Texas USA

RE: Sabicas on top form (in reply to guitarbuddha)

Paco said that the first time he heard a Sabicas record, he realized there was a different way to play the guitar.

How many here would say the second piece on the first video is soleá por medio, and how many would say it is soleá por buleria---and why would you say so?

Note that the top comment on Youtube claims that Sabicas was blind!! The last time I saw him in 1965 he still seemed to have very good eyesight, which he employed frequently checking out my 21-year old blonde fiancee.

RNJ

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 21 2013 21:50:21

guitarbuddha

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RE: Sabicas on top form (in reply to Richard Jernigan)

Paco said that Sabicas 'impressed' him. No wonder.

I honestly believe there is only one answer to the solea/SPB/buleria thing Richard, but it doesn't involve typing.

D.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 22 2013 11:09:32

ToddK

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RE: Sabicas on top form (in reply to guitarbuddha)

Wow, he's well into his 50's by then, and still friggin blazing!

Thanks for posting that!

TK

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 23 2013 20:53:54

guitarbuddha

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RE: Sabicas on top form (in reply to ToddK)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ToddK

Wow, he's well into his 50's by then, and still friggin blazing!

Thanks for posting that!

TK

I thought you in particular might appreciate this Todd you and he seem to have similar sensibilities. As far as I know you are the only person who follows his lead on the m finger upstroke in rasgueados.

I am hoping to peak at seventy. It is a comfort since I certainly didn't in my twenties.

D.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 23 2013 21:02:34

mark indigo

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RE: Sabicas on top form (in reply to guitarbuddha)

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As far as I know you are the only person who follows his lead on the m finger upstroke in rasgueados.

Pepe Habichuela and Miguel Angel Cortés both use m upstroke rasgueado.

I understood (according to Faucher) Pepe developed this himself and I guessed MAC got it from Pepe, both being Granadinos, but I don't know that for sure.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 24 2013 16:32:50

tele

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RE: Sabicas on top form (in reply to guitarbuddha)

I wonder if that's coca cola in his glass in the first video

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 24 2013 17:41:58

Richard Jernigan

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RE: Sabicas on top form (in reply to tele)

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ORIGINAL: tele

I wonder if that's coca cola in his glass in the first video

After a fair amount of patronage at La Zambra in New Yok City in the early 1960s I was admitted to the after hours juergas on Saturday night/Sunday morning.

If Sabicas was there he would take the stage, play for singers and dancers, invite other guitarist to solo, improvise duet parts or do the occasional solo himself. There was always a bumper of brandy on the floor beside his chair. After each piece he would take a snort or two. He would play from 2 AM until the sun came up and never slow down or miss a note.

Sabicas also played poker in some of the biggest games in New York. A friend told me he would astonish newcomers by having a glass of brandy on the table, taking a sip from time to time, smiling and talking with his Spanish accent. My friend said Sabicas was a consistent winner.

RNJ

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 26 2013 2:58:54

ToddK

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RE: Sabicas on top form (in reply to guitarbuddha)

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As far as I know you are the only person who follows his lead on the m finger upstroke in rasgueados.

Hmm, no, i don't do upstrokes with M, but now i'm curious to
watch my own video again, and try to see what you're seeing. :)

I think maybe its just because my right hand position is a bit "off"
because i play alot of different styles.

TK

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 26 2013 6:19:22

Paul Magnussen

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RE: Sabicas on top form (in reply to Richard Jernigan)

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Sabicas also played poker in some of the biggest games in New York […] smiling and talking with his Spanish accent.

You mean talking English with his Spanish accent? When I knew him (which is to say the early ’80s) he hardly seemed able to put two words together. I did the interview with him in Spanish.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 26 2013 16:25:52

guitarbuddha

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RE: Sabicas on top form (in reply to ToddK)

It was on the Tomatito Alegrias from way back Todd. There was a small discussion about it at the time and I noticed that Sabicas was using some of the same patterns in Buleria.

D.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 26 2013 17:01:37

Richard Jernigan

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RE: Sabicas on top form (in reply to Paul Magnussen)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Paul Magnussen

quote:

Sabicas also played poker in some of the biggest games in New York […] smiling and talking with his Spanish accent.

You mean talking English with his Spanish accent? When I knew him (which is to say the early ’80s) he hardly seemed able to put two words together. I did the interview with him in Spanish.

Most of the people I saw closely associated with him in New York in the early 1960s were Spanish, maybe a few Latin Americans. Whenever I spoke with him, we spoke Spanish.

He seemed surprised at San Antonio in 1965 when my fair skinned blonde, blue-eyed fiancee spoke fluent Spanish. On various occasions she had lived in Mexico for several months at a time, from childhood through university.

But I heard Sabicas speak English, considerably accented, to others. My poker playing friend said he told jokes in English.

RNJ

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 26 2013 18:53:25