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Miguel de Maria

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Joined: Oct. 20 2003
From: Phoenix, AZ

steady gig contracts

Does anyone have a boilerplate steady gig contract they'd be willing to email me? Thanks!

michaelwcho@hotmail.com

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 2 2005 19:04:34

Jon Boyes

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Joined: Jul. 10 2003

RE: steady gig contracts (in reply to Miguel de Maria)

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ORIGINAL: Miguel de Maria
Does anyone have a boilerplate steady gig contract they'd be willing to email me?

Yes, of course

Do you have MS Publisher? My standard contract and accompanying letter is laid out in a .pub file.
Its not a regular gig contract though, its for one offs. Do you want it?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 3 2005 8:54:57

Miguel de Maria

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Joined: Oct. 20 2003
From: Phoenix, AZ

RE: steady gig contracts (in reply to Miguel de Maria)

What I'm looking for is one with the special requirements/conditions of a steady gig, as I have one for one-offs. Thanks anyways, though.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 3 2005 16:43:40

Mark2

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Joined: Jul. 12 2004
From: San Francisco

RE: steady gig contracts (in reply to Miguel de Maria)

Write a new one for every gig, because every gig is different. Things you might want to consider are:
1. Your right to send a sub, and how frequently
2. Food and drinks
3. Cancellation by either party, and what the limits of liability would be.
4. CD music for breaks (I hate to do this)
5. Letting others use your mike for anouncements and speeches (I hate this too)
6. Terms of payment including interest for late payment
7. Parking, loading, and the time you are required to be there to set up, as well as breakdown.
8. Discounts for your guests.
9. Your right to sell cd's, and their obligations to promote you through advertising or other means.
10. The displaying of promotional items.
11. Your setup requirements (power, chair(s), sound, extension cords, monitors, reverbs, whatever)

If your going to be there a while, you might as well make it as comfortable as possible. My group got into a super popular club, and after the first night, the club owner set a table and gave us great food and drink, really nice. After six months playing there, we were eating rice and beans in the alley in back of the club. After that the unload had to take place right through the huge crowd of ass to ass salsa dancers. All unforseen negative parts of that gig.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 3 2005 16:58:00

Escribano

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Joined: Jul. 6 2003
From: England, living in Italy

RE: steady gig contracts (in reply to Mark2)

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After that the unload had to take place right through the huge crowd of ass to ass salsa dancers. All unforseen negative parts of that gig.

That's a negative?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 3 2005 17:25:12

Miguel de Maria

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Joined: Oct. 20 2003
From: Phoenix, AZ

RE: steady gig contracts (in reply to Miguel de Maria)

Simon,
he didn't mention it was an "alternative salsa" club. Not that there's anything wrong with that!

Mark,
thanks, that's very helpful. I have been trained since day 1 to religiously put in break music, but it seems to me that if there is silence during the breaks, they sure notice when you're around! Although putting on music helps avoid the..."where is the damn musician smoking again?" problem.

Why do you hate letting them use your mic? Also, what terms have you seen as far as notice for cancellations?\

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 3 2005 18:19:22

Mark2

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Joined: Jul. 12 2004
From: San Francisco

RE: steady gig contracts (in reply to Miguel de Maria)

Ha Ha Alternative? No this place was the hottest club in town and full of beautiful women, but I'm married, so it did me little good. Imagine humping your amp though a super crowded dance floor, then going back for your guitars, mike stands, etc. No fun.
Cancellation should pay no less than 50% of the gig, unless it happens the day of the gig, in which case you should get it all. Dealing with CD music is doing the work of a dj without pay, and letting idiots use your expensive mike and having to hang out to adjust it for their voice and keep it from feeding back, thus depriving you of part of your break, is lame! Once after a flamenco show, I got into a beef with an event planner over overtime. She agreed to pay an additional $500 for 20 minutes, this after they had ignored two 50 minute sets with some of the better flamenco dancers/singer in our area. They wanted to dance, so we played rumba for what seemed like 20 minutes straight. The audience, all Texans, were up doing the conga line, the dancers were down on the dance floor, doing that cheesy "get the audience up to dance" routine, while me and the other guitarist were breaking our hands. The event planner followed us off the stage, and started reading me the riot act because we only played 17 minutes! After beefing with her, I returned to the stage to breakdown the pa, only to find drunken texans had taken over the PA and were singing country tunes, one of them banging on my condenser to keep time! Took an extra 45 minutes to get out without causing further bad feelings.
I do agree about the CD music helping your break-once I put on some cante during a break, and after a couple of minutes the client came running in to tell me we had to go back on now, because they hated the cd!!!
OTOH, yesterday my four piece played a gig at a bay front multi million dollar spread and at some point a yacht cruised up with a happy birthday sign on it with two guys on the deck playing cajin music! I have no idea if the boat was the present, but they had the dough, so who knows. They decided it would be fun if the band had a few drinks , so we were given excellent martini's , good food, good audience, good acoustics, and good money. The violin guy was going on about how much he liked the "trophy wives". If I could do that kind of gig everyday, my day gig would go bye.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 3 2005 19:44:30

Escribano

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Joined: Jul. 6 2003
From: England, living in Italy

RE: steady gig contracts (in reply to Mark2)

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Took an extra 45 minutes to get out without causing further bad feelings.

"Clouds" in Preston, England. We ended up fighting with our own security (supplied by the venue) and not getting paid because I blew their cheap 8-channel PA with my on-board pre-amp - alright, it was a home built 18V black box (Gibson SG, not flamenco) but they didn't know