Photos of Pastora Pavón

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NormanKliman

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Photos of Pastora Pavón

If anyone's interested, there are some photos of Pastora Pavón (Niña de los Peines) on the website of an association that promotes the work of Alan Lomax. She appears as an unidentified woman in Coria del Río, which is a village near Seville where she had a house.

Scroll down toward the bottom of this page:
http://research.culturalequity.org/rc-b2/photo-ix-photolist.jsp?d-49653-p=2

It would be very big news if Mr. Lomax also recorded her during the photo session.

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britguy

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RE: Photos of Pastora Pavón (in reply to NormanKliman)

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It would be very big news if Mr. Lomax also recorded her during the photo session.

I thought all of Lomax's recordings were housed in the Library of Congress. Would there perhaps be some record in there???

(I once had an old 78 of La Nina singing seguiriyas, accompanied by Melchor de Marchena ( I think) - but it got broken many years ago. . .)

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Estevan

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RE: Photos of Pastora Pavón (in reply to NormanKliman)

Interesting find, Norman - but I still haven't been able to see it yet because:

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I didn't know there were that many foro people!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 13 2012 16:13:17

Ramon Amira

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RE: Photos of Pastora Pavón (in reply to NormanKliman)

I have several recordings of Niña de los Peines on LPs reconstructed from old 78s. I've had them for a long time, so I don't know if they're still available, but they might be. Or some of them might have been put on CD.

You can also hear her on You Tube.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 13 2012 17:53:15

srshea

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RE: Photos of Pastora Pavón (in reply to NormanKliman)

Wow. They've already relabeled the photos! The Lomax estate doesn't waste any time.

For anyone who's interested, I recently discovered that the content from the CDrom interactive whatzit from the big, out of print Pastora box set is available on the Junta de Andalucia site.

http://www.juntadeandalucia.es/cultura/centroandaluzflamenco/

Hover your cursor over the "Museos Virtuales" thing and it'll bring up the link to the Pastora pages. There's a message stating that the content is inaccessible, but that's not true. It's sort of semi-functional. You can access all the content, but the navigation between all the pages is pretty much non-existent. Once you've gotten to a certain page you can't back out of it and return to the previous one; you have to just close the whole thing and start from scratch. So, it's a total pain in the ass and is only useful for those who are willing to patiently slog through the site, but there's lots of stuff there, pics, letras, info on her accompanists, etc.

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Estevan

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RE: Photos of Pastora Pavón (in reply to Ramon Amira)

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Or some of them might have been put on CD.

Some of them have...(as you can see from this link)

A search for 'flamenco' on that Lomax site brings up three pages of curiosities - some of them incorrectly identified - but no Pastora. Unfortunately they are only short samples, but they do give an interesting impression of "non-professional" flamenco in 1952.

http://research.culturalequity.org/rc-b2/home-audio.jsp

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 13 2012 20:43:27

NormanKliman

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RE: Photos of Pastora Pavón (in reply to NormanKliman)

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I thought all of Lomax's recordings were housed in the Library of Congress. Would there perhaps be some record in there???

Dunno, but I guess it's worth a look. The problem would be that, until yesterday, she remained unidentified in the Lomax archives.

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...but I still haven't been able to see it yet because:

Our servers are experiencing too many requests at the moment. Please try back later.

I was getting that yesterday, too, and it's still that way this morning. But a simple alternative seems to be to go to the home page, select "Photograph collections" from the menu on the left, put "Coria" into the search window on the right and select the "location" option. Six photos of her appear on the second page. There's actually a seventh image, which is a photo of a photo of her with her husband Pepe Pinto.

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Wow. They've already relabeled the photos! The Lomax estate doesn't waste any time.

Yeah, I came across the images on Sunday and wrote the assocation on Monday morning. They responded very quickly, saying that there might be a written interview. There are also "dubs that Alan made from Radio Seville on the same date as that photo" but I had a listen and she's not among them. This morning I realized that her brother Tomás died that same year after a long illness, meaning that she probably wouldn't have wanted to sing if given the opportunity (notice she's dressed in black in the photos), aside from the fact that she was turning down many lucrative offers to perform at that point in her life. That's unfortunate, because the photos were taken just a few years after she made all those excellent recordings with Melchor.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2012 7:31:40

britguy

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RE: Photos of Pastora Pavón (in reply to Estevan)

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Some of them have...(as you can see from this link)

That's a hell of a good link. I think I might order a few. Love those old photos on the sleeves. Almost worth it just for the pics. . .

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2012 20:16:06

NormanKliman

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RE: Photos of Pastora Pavón (in reply to NormanKliman)

Update: They now think that the photos were taken in Seville. They were unavailable for about a week but are now back on the site. You can access them by searching for "seville" (place) or "pastora" (subject). Apparently, there's also a short written interview, but the editor in charge of the resources doesn't want to release a copy at this time because she intends to include it in a book that she hopes to write.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 25 2012 10:03:15