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Miguel de Maria

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Hand seperate 

Reading a book on piano technique, you see that it's much harder to do things with two hands at the same time, then just concentrating on one.

Now, a pianist, can easily seperate the two parts, play the melodies on the RH, play the accomp. on the LH, but guitarists have a bit of a problem doing this. Yet the problem of playing both hands together persists.

I have found, sometimes, taht there will be something wrong with what I am doing... when I isolate it and play the RH part only, the difficulty magically disappears. If I get it down without the LH, then go back to playing them together, sometimes the work I just did takes over, and sometimes the "autopilot" takes over, usually causing tension or inefficient motions.

For example, I found that while playing same scale-type licks for Panaderos Flamencos, when I was doing some string crossings, my hand would tense up. When I practiced it without the LH part, the tension disappeared.
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duende

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RE: Hand seperate (in reply to Miguel de Maria

to practice both hands seperatly is very helpful. I do it a lot. but not enough i guess..

Skål!! (cheers)


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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 14 2005 20:38:47
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RE: Hand seperate (in reply to Miguel de Maria

Hola

I to practice hands seperate a lot. I also do it with the left hand, if there's something that doesn't work. I was taught in my violin years to analyse each little part of a musical piece and find the difficult places, like chord changes, stretches etc and practice them seperately. It really works. The problem is to make it fun, because we learn the best when we are having fun.

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Skai

 

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RE: Hand seperate (in reply to Guest

So that's what 'Skai' means? 'Cheers'? Wow, I've finally found out. I just took it from a great clasical piece I learnt called Tango En Skai by Roland Dyens. You guys should check it out. Nice fast stuff LOL and no, I can't play it properly yet.

Back to the thread. A pianist HAS to be taught to do that. In the case of classical guitar, the thumb plays the accompaniment most of the time while the other 3 fingers play the melody quite often. This happens in solo flamenco guitar very often too.

So for those who say that piano, violin etc are harder than guitar, they obviously don't know classical or solo flamenco guitar. Throw in duplicate notes and various positions which are hell to sight read, using 2 fingers to produce a note at a time and the problem to tone production, and this makes classical and flamenco guitar as hard as any other instrument (if not harder). That's not counting the wide array of left and right hand techniques.

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ToddK

 

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RE: Hand seperate (in reply to Miguel de Maria

There are many days, where i do nothing but right hand work.

I'm either just holding chords or playing open strings, just working
on technique with right hand. Arps and rolls mainly.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 16 2005 2:51:05
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RE: Hand seperate (in reply to Miguel de Maria

Hi Todd

That's what I do when the football match is to boring. (Atletico de Madrid - Sevilla: 0 - 0 ZZZZZZZ) LOL

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