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odinz

Posts: 407
Joined: May 26 2010
From: Sarpsborg,Norway

I really want to get my hands on a f...

Hello to anyone who might be reading this, i am looking for a pretty good or allright flamenco guitar. However i am a bit poor you can say.. I am willing to pay as much as 1000$ or something around there.. since i am a 18 year old student i dont have alot of money so.

And thats why i came here

i thought maybe someone could help me find a new one online, or i would also buy used. i feel more comfortable with buying fro europe but USA is also ok i guess.

I am from Norway by the way, and new to this forum, very nice community here! lots of answers here to some of my questions as well!

I hope i am not asking to much or in the wrong thread, and i hope all who reads this and knows something will answer, thanks for the oportunity!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 26 2010 13:56:17

rodpacheco

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From: Mexico

RE: I really want to get my hands on... (in reply to odinz)

hehe... let´s talk!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 26 2010 21:22:03

Stephen Eden

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From: UK

RE: I really want to get my hands on... (in reply to odinz)

Hey odinz and welcome to the foro. There are plenty of great bargains out there. Buying from europe should save you alot on postage so you can get more guitar for your money so to speak.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 27 2010 0:16:21

M.S.A.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 29 2010 1:14:57

fumanshu

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RE: I really want to get my hands on... (in reply to odinz)

My flamenco mentor just love the Navarro that I made him try. Easy to play and sounds flamenco for sure!

I think you can't go wrong with a Navarro in that price range. Like M.S.A said, it can rival higher quality guitar and much cheaper!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 29 2010 3:07:07

M.S.A.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 29 2010 3:22:54

GuitarVlog

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Joined: Mar. 19 2009
From: San Francisco Bay Area

RE: I really want to get my hands on... (in reply to fumanshu)

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ORIGINAL: fumanshu
My flamenco mentor just love the Navarro that I made him try. Easy to play and sounds flamenco for sure!

Hey fu! You bought the Navarro! Congrats!

When did you get it? Did you get the negra or the blanca from that guy on fleaBay?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 29 2010 6:59:42

fumanshu

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RE: I really want to get my hands on... (in reply to odinz)

Hey GV! I bought the negra one. That guitar smells soo good, it's crazy!!! The one I received sounds amazingly good and very loud. I just don't know if they all sound like that or not, but the one I received is very nice.

To my ears it's a very big step upgrade from the Yamaha CG171 SF which now sound flat compare to the Navarro...

I'm now tempted by a Castillo!!!!! hahahahah!!!!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 29 2010 8:52:13

Alonte

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Joined: Dec. 2 2008

RE: I really want to get my hands on... (in reply to odinz)

I have a blanca. It is loud indeed! Not as dry as what youd expect from a flamenca blanca though but its brand new. It can get a bit mushy when playing rasgueos.

I was just at a juerga. There were 4 guitar players. One played a Glen Canin. Canin was the loudest. Next was mine. The other 2 were "made in spain" guitars worth 8x more.

I originally got the navarro as a beater. Or something I could play till I could afford a better one. But it's getting tough because it's pretty good! My 2 friends who played with me at the juerga are now probably getting a Navarro also.

We all agreed my Navarro Student model doesnt have the prettiest wood and the most polished worksmanship but they said if it were a shark, it ate all their guitars.

Ok maybe hard to admit but I am a Navarro and Castillo fanboy now. Castillos... I even want to get me started...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 29 2010 9:45:35

GuitarVlog

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From: San Francisco Bay Area

RE: I really want to get my hands on... (in reply to fumanshu)

Congratulations! Navarro makes great guitars.

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ORIGINAL: fumanshu
I'm now tempted by a Castillo!!!!! hahahahah!!!!

Whoa! Easy there or we'll have to shoot you with a tranquilizer dart!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 29 2010 13:49:29

Lorenzo

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Joined: Jun. 15 2007
From: New Mexico, USA

RE: I really want to get my hands on... (in reply to odinz)

found this link to flamenco guitars on ebay
http://www.stringguitar.net/nylonstring/Flamenco_Guitar.php

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 30 2010 7:30:28

keith

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Joined: Sep. 29 2009
From: Back in Boston

RE: I really want to get my hands on... (in reply to odinz)

i have a bellido/alhambra for sale for $800. the guitar has a bellido label and stamp but is not a bellido 1a rather a guitar made for him. i believe it is an alhambra 7fc--solid woods, cypress sides and back. it has a very good flamenco tone, is lighter than a typical alhambra, has new tuners and is in excellent condition. see the classified section. send me an e-mail if interested.

i am in need of selling it as i have been unemployed now for a few weeks and will have to relocate and couch surf for a while.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 1 2010 7:47:56

odinz

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Joined: May 26 2010
From: Sarpsborg,Norway

RE: I really want to get my hands on... (in reply to odinz)

Hey thanks for the replies all

I met someone who wanted me to buy etc but suddenly lost contact so, I decided to try out the Francisco Navarro student since ive heard so much good about it, does anyone know where to order safely online?

Ive also seen a website called lasonanta.eu is this a safe spot for ordering guitars?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 18 2010 11:36:00

Leendert

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Joined: May 27 2010
From: WI, USA

RE: I really want to get my hands on... (in reply to odinz)

hi..I`ve started with a Manuel Rodriquez, but after a short while I felt I was already 'outgrowing' this guitar, it just didn`t had the right sound to me anymore...
Just like M.S.A said...
Now I got a 2010 Fransisco Navarro Blanca, and it`s awesome!
Beautiful clear, bright flamenco tone with ample bass sound.
I love the guitar and play on it ONLY now....a couple of days ago I picked up the Rodriquez again, just to realize it sounds like crap honestly...amazing how the sound is so different than the Navarro...
Anyway, just wanted to add another opinion/experience to your list of happy Navarro users :)......I would definitely recommend getting one!...I got mine off of Ebay....Good luck!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 18 2010 15:39:20

odinz

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Joined: May 26 2010
From: Sarpsborg,Norway

RE: I really want to get my hands on... (in reply to Leendert)

Hey thanks for posting!
Yeah i understand what you mean

Untill now Ive used a Jose Ortega classical guitar and it does not fit how I am playing at all

Yeah i am also looking for the blanca, it looks so nice.
Now I am Totally convinced

I cant seem to find any on ebay but i guess I can order from the website itself maybe.
Do you know if there is a model with pegs instead of machine tuners? Both look nice, but I have a crush on the pegs now for a while

Thanks for your input it has helped me reach my definate decision

All the best
-Jonas-Ujio

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 18 2010 18:05:58

Leendert

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From: WI, USA

RE: I really want to get my hands on... (in reply to odinz)

I am not sure about the pegs, I have seen them on Navarro guitars, but they might be in a different price range. Mine just has the machine tuners.

oh..and check your mail :)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 18 2010 19:09:10

a_arnold

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RE: I really want to get my hands on... (in reply to Leendert)

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I am not sure about the pegs, I have seen them on Navarro guitars, but they might be in a different price range. Mine just has the machine tuners.

Most makers charge the same for pegs as machines, but they should be less because they are a lot cheaper and easier to install.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 27 2010 1:56:49

estebanana

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RE: I really want to get my hands on... (in reply to a_arnold)

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Most makers charge the same for pegs as machines, but they should be less because they are a lot cheaper and easier to install.

Machines cost more than a set of premade pegs, but the labor involved in making the pegs work perfectly makes the price about equal.

When you install machines there is one more operation to be done after the tuner barrel holes are drilled and that is to chisel out or rout out the string slots. When you install pegs you have to drill six holes for the peg and then carefully ream the holes with a tapered reamer. The pegs themselves need to be individually shaved to make them true and then each peg must me fitted carefully and adjusted to the correct height off of the headstock veneer.

So each respective installation, pegs or machines, has detail and finish work that takes time to do correctly. They end up being about the same after materials and labor are accounted for. Both types of installation require a set of tools which must be made and maintained as well.

To get esoteric about it . Installing machines is more of workmanship of certainty operation and installing pegs more of a workmanship of risk operation. But that is another story.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 27 2010 7:52:30

Ramon Amira

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RE: I really want to get my hands on... (in reply to odinz)

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Most makers charge the same for pegs as machines, but they should be less because they are a lot cheaper and easier to install.

Here's what Manuel Reyes had to say on the subject - "Mechanical tuners are so much easier to install for the guitarrero - no varnishing, carving, fitting, and all that extra work."

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 13 2010 19:54:30