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HolyEvil

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Merengue de Cordoba bad technique? 
Hi there guys, just was watching La guitarra flamenca de Merengue de Cordoba , his way of playing is very diff to what I have been exposed to via my teacher, youtube, other la guitarra series.

eg his alzapua used a very small movement of the thumb, hitting only the string after the initial note (on the lower string) and up movement only on the single string too
eg on a Em chord
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another is his rasqs, free floating thumb, and no flicking of the fingers, just moving the fingers in small motions hitting the top 3 strings etc?
another is playing right on the soundhole etc

but on the introduction on the video/internet, he is the teacher of Vicente Amigo, Paco Serrano etc

why is his technique so different from Vincente or Serrano etc
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Arash

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RE: Merengue de Cordoba bad technique? (in reply to HolyEvil) 
well, i wouldn't use this DVD for learning technique but its good for learning all the different Cante forms and Palos. But yes, the technique is quite "oldschool". and as we all know, technique developed and changed a lot.

For copying and learning technique i would use other DVDs like from Gerardo, Chicuelo, etc.

So, for me , yes, i would say it is "bad" technique. but others might like that shrammmmm shrammmm rasg. sound.

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Stu

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RE: Merengue de Cordoba bad technique? (in reply to Arash) 
yeah i dont really like some of the technique in this dvd but its an excellent resource covering loads of palos..

jeeeez Arash.... your new pic is scary man...its like hes looking into my soul....feel like i need to answer some big question that he hasnt even asked yet!!!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 21 2010 4:38:56
 
Doitsujin

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RE: Merengue de Cordoba bad technique? (in reply to HolyEvil) 
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Merengue de Cordoba bad technique?


Yes indeed. Merengues hands are stiff as a stick.. Like someones stuffed his wrists into liquid nitrogen for 10 minutes. I fear eyecancer watching him playing.... Maybe good to learn the basic chords for singing... but dont watch his techniques.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 21 2010 5:02:33
 
Arash

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RE: Merengue de Cordoba bad technique? (in reply to Stu) 
quote:

ORIGINAL: Stu


jeeeez Arash.... your new pic is scary man...its like hes looking into my soul....feel like i need to answer some big question that he hasnt even asked yet!!!


indeed, scary.

first time i saw this pic, i felt like he is asking me:

- "why didn't you practice enough today and watched some **** on TV instead?"

- "you don't even play perfectly in compas, and you want to learn my falsetas?"

and....

- "Andalusian Guitars are the best Guitars i have ever played and very sonorous with timbric colors. Why do you make fun of Ruben?"


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Mike_Kinny

 

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RE: Merengue de Cordoba bad technique? (in reply to Stu) 
quote:

feel like i need to answer some big question that he hasnt even asked yet!!

Right you got some splainin to do.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 21 2010 7:50:14
 
srshea

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RE: Merengue de Cordoba bad technique? (in reply to HolyEvil) 
Yeah, Merengue's "soft" technique is a bit strange, and not the best thing to emulate. Though his accompaniment book is a great resource.

I don't know that his technique is old school so much as it is simply "old". If you hear his stuff form back in the 70s, he sounds just like anyone else from that era. His technique is sharp and strong, the rasgeados are clear and clean, with none of the schramm schramm mushiness you see on those Encuentro vids.

I dunno, he's not that old, but maybe his hands are worn out now. Or maybe he feels like he paid his dues with sharp technique in the old days, and now only has the energy and will to play "retirement rasgeados".
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 21 2010 8:30:45
 
Stu

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RE: Merengue de Cordoba bad technique? (in reply to srshea) 
quote:

retirement rasgeados".


hahahaah
excellent alliteration leo!

quote:

indeed, scary.

first time i saw this pic, i felt like he is asking me:

- "why didn't you practice enough today and watched some **** on TV instead?"

- "you don't even play perfectly in compas, and you want to learn my falsetas?"


exactly man! like were not worthy to look into his eyes! hes gonna spot our weaknesses and shortcomings ..
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