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Jim Opfer

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Missed it! 

I got this e-mail from a guy in London asking if I wanted to play flamenco guitar in an advert. I said yes, but I was in Glasgow.
He came back and asked if I could recommend anyone else as it seemed impractical.
I referred him to Rafael, and asked 'what advert?'

I got This back;


Hi,

The job is an advert but there is an audition tomorrow in London! The reason
there is an audition is it is a casting job (recording session in London)
then fly to Thailand to shoot the ad as a flamenco guitar playing body
double for Alan Whittaker in a travelocity ad!

Heard about you on Stephen Hill's website playing one of his instruments.

Anyhow sounds impossible for you.

Thanks for replying.

Jonathan


Grrrr...!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 14 2004 18:42:30
 
Ron.M

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Jim Opfer

Damn Jim,
I wish they had asked me...could do with the dough!
Trouble is, I don't look anything like Alan Whittaker...
Grrr!

Ron
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 14 2004 19:31:03
 
Jim Opfer

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Ron.M

quote:

I don't look anything like Alan Whittaker...



Who is he anyway, heard he's a good player?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 14 2004 19:52:31
 
Jon Boyes

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Jim Opfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jim Opfer
I got this e-mail from a guy in London asking if I wanted to play flamenco guitar in an advert. I said yes, but I was in Glasgow.


So did I - I had an email from the casting agency itself. I had a chat with their casting director, and she sent me the full brief.

A few concerns - the player will be filmed walking along a beach, and they will superimpose Alan Wicker's (not Whittaker) head on top. So that's the first problem -WALKING along whilst playing.

Secondly, the agency has hired a musical director/composer. Now at this stage it is unclear what exactly the musician will be required to play in the advert, but it sounded to me like this composer would be composing something for the musician to play. The brief just says someone who can play all styles of Spanish guitar (ie including classical).
The music for the advert will be something breathtaking - very virtuosic, very fast and the agency wre very keen to stress that they are looking for an absolute virtuoso.

Oh, you also have to have the same dimensions as Alan Wicker, give or take the odd inch .

I doubt very much that the team making the advert have anyone on board that appreciates the problems here: that flamenco and classical guitar are both played seated, that the majority of flamencos can't read music and wouldn't be able to play from a score, and that they don't play composed music anyway, etc, etc.

The fee if you were selected, by the way, is £3k, plus of course a few days in Thailand filming. and a session in a London studio at standard rates (which would come to another £200 odd.) The agency of course buys out your rights and you would not be identified in any way.

Last I heard they had about 15 people lined up, the audition is only 15 mins.

Jon
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 15 2004 9:36:28
 
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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 15 2004 12:51:03
 
Jim Opfer

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Jon Boyes

quote:

A few concerns - the player will be filmed walking along a beach, and they will superimpose Alan Wicker's (not Whittaker) head on top


As I see it, the main problem would be walking along the beech with no head, playing and just waiting for his head to be put on.

The whittaker typo is cut and past from the email I got, so I hope they get the right head
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 15 2004 12:53:47
 
Miguel de Maria

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Jim Opfer

You guys should just go and play some really loud rasgeuados. Then do one of those Alegrias thingies where you alternate the p and the i fast. And then play Malaguena real loud. Once they hire you, you're Scot-free (so to speak), and once they have you in the studio they're probably too committed to back off by that point. As far as playing standing up, does it matter? You just fake it since they don't use the sound anyway!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 15 2004 16:54:56
 
Escribano

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Miguel de Maria

and you will be "the only white man on the island" - Monty Python Whicker joke

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 15 2004 19:21:17
 
Jim Opfer

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Miguel de Maria

quote:

You just fake it since they don't use the sound anyway!


Great laugh, you get there strum a few chords and start singing cante.
Aheeee! a need a peee!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 15 2004 22:26:58
 
Miguel de Maria

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Jim Opfer

Jim, you think I'm kidding don't you?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 16 2004 20:21:13
 
Jim Opfer

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Miguel de Maria

quote:

Jim, you think I'm kidding don't you?


I,ve got no idea, I guess anything's possible.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 18 2004 20:53:31
 
Miguel de Maria

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Jim Opfer

No, I'm not kidding, I would go whether I thought I was good or not. One has to get experience however he can. And not worry about ruining my reputation as a virtuoso musician if I don't fit the bill!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 18 2004 20:57:18
 
Jon Boyes

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Miguel de Maria

That would have been an 8 hour round trip for me. Whilst its important to take some risks, right now I can't afford the time to be that speculative, its much more important for me to stay focussed on my plans.

Mind you, when I see that advert if I think "I could have played that" then you bet I will be kicking myself to London and back

Jon
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 19 2004 8:18:37
 
Miguel de Maria

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Jim Opfer

Jon,
8 hours is pretty harsh. That's the length from here to Los Angeles! You see, I have this vision that you guys all live in Sherlock Holmes' London together...I keep forgetting that all you British people are scattered over a somewhat sizeable country!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 19 2004 14:39:47
 
Jamey

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Jim Opfer

8 hours isn't so bad. You could be a lot more isolated.

If I drive 8 hours east, I hit a town called Thunder Bay in the Canadian Shield (small place built around the lumber, pulp and paper industry so places leading up to it and after it have a rotten egg sulphur smell).

If I drive 8 hours west, I hit Regina, which is essentially the exact same place as where I am albeit a little more agriculture based and not as ethnically diverse (and just as flat).

If I drive 8 hours north (not something anyone here should do), I hit Thompson, a city that grew from a mining town and 8 hours north from here means polar bears and - 55 or -65 C winters (bears as big as SUVs are bad enough).

If I drive 8 hours south, I end up just outside of Minneapolis-St. Paul (the twin cities). A great city to hang out in but that's 8 hours one way, not round trip. By then I'll have been pulled over three times by state troupers for speeding. I saw Prince (sorry Prince, there's no key on my keyboard for whatever the hell you're calling yourself these days) there in a swanky club once. He was in a semi private part of the club with a giant yeti pretending to be a body guard.

If I shorten it to 8 hours round trip:
4 hours east = rocks and pine trees
4 hours west = wheat fields to the horizon
4 hours north = bush, bugs and our own brand of "hill billies" living in the "interlake" region.
4 hours south = Fargo North Dakota (see above for "4 hours west")

If London was 4 hours away, I'd go in a heart beat.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 19 2004 15:15:40
 
Jim Opfer

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Miguel de Maria

quote:

I keep forgetting that all you British people are scattered over a somewhat sizeable country!


The thing is Glasgow to London should only be about 5hrs drive at 80mph. The journey from Scotland down to top top part of England's a doddle, good roads most of the way and relatively free of traffic.
When I hit Liverpool, it all changes, all of a sudden the roads are jammed, but still not too bad. When I get to Birmingham it's traffic jams and crawling along for about 50 miles or so, but still not tooooo! bad.
London however, is a total different thing. traffic just stops and it's nose to tail for hours.
I guess this last section adds about 3hrs on to the journey. 8 hours at least.

Anyway, anyway, I was invited the day before the interview and was up for it without knowing any detail, I said I'd go. But reply was not to bother, they said it was impractical.
Only found out in this thread from Jon that they were hunting down lots of other players.

So not to worry, who is this guy Whittiker anyway?

Jim.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 19 2004 19:19:44
 
Jim Opfer

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Jamey

quote:

(small place built around the lumber, pulp and paper industry so places leading up to it and after it have a rotten egg sulphur smell).


Mmmm! the sweet smell of sulpher, feeling hungry, Simon, put on the curry.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 19 2004 19:20:56
 
Ron.M

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Jamey

Hey Jamey,
A long time ago I drove down with some friends from Washington State, through Oregon and into California.
I was half asleep when somebody woke me up, saying "Hey Ron, we're coming into the Giant Redwood forest....you've gotta see this!"
Wiping the sleep from my eyes, I was amazed to see the tallest trees I've ever seen in my life (including having been to various countries in Africa).
Three hours later I was still seeing the tallest trees I'd ever seen in my life!

The United States is a big country!

cheers

Ron
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 19 2004 20:28:00
 
Miguel de Maria

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Ron.M

Ron,
isn't Jamey a Canadian? As you know, Canadian politicians have been known to detest Americans!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 19 2004 20:46:23
 
Patrick

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Jim Opfer

quote:

I was amazed to see the tallest trees I've ever seen in my life


Ron,

They are not only the tallest, but the widest as well.

http://digthatcrazyfarout.com/redwoods/drive_thru.html

The US is indeed a very big place. In Oregon we have rain forest as well as miles and miles of desert.

Pat
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 19 2004 20:51:21
 
Jim Opfer

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Patrick

quote:

The US is indeed a very big place. In Oregon we have rain forest as well as miles and miles of desert.


Cars are a bit out of date.
Or,
Wo! fancy a guitar made from one of those!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 19 2004 21:03:16
 
Patrick

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Jim Opfer

quote:

Cars are a bit out of date


Jim,

Those pictures are from California. In Oregon we still use horse and buggies!

Pat
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 19 2004 21:57:02
 
Ron.M

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Patrick

Pat,
I must admit, having been to various parts of the States, Oregon was the only one I can say I could relate to. Very calm and easy going, and I liked the heritage of the scrimshaw artists there, which gave much to my (then) young imagination of a much earlier civilization and occupancy of the land.
Great times!

cheers

Ron
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 19 2004 22:24:42
 
Jamey

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Jim Opfer

Canada is bigger than the U.S. of A.
Texas doesn't like to hear that Alberta is a much bigger Texas with Montana thrown in for the hell of it. With all this extreme vastness, you can't really live in most of it. Most of Canada is truely wilderness and unless you're a moose, bear, caribou, wolf, sasquatch, deer or some type of water fowl, most of it is off limits (i.e. you couldn't really get there unless you had a plane, boat, sherpa, and hunting rifle). Some places up north have to wait until winter so that the lakes freeze up and they can build temporary roads on all of the frozen lakes (Minnesota claims 10,000 lakes, Manitoba has some ridiculous number like 100,000 lakes). It's actually a little unnerving to see a semi (lory to you Brits) drive on a frozen lake.

I live right in the center on Canada. This unfortunately means that I'm really far from everywhere. I remember back when I was going to school in Montreal, a flight to Paris was cheaper than one back to Winnipeg (damn, should have grabbed the one to Paris).
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 20 2004 7:41:40
 
Kate

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Jamey

Wow you do sound isolated. Its amazing to think of how far flung we all are and how flamenco brings everyone together.

If I could drive 4 hours South I'd be in the middle of the Med Sea almost in Africa :)

One hour gets me to an airport and another 2-3 hours flying would see me in London.

If I drove North I'd be just outside Madrid in four hours. Which is what I'm going to do next Monday. Hey bright lights , big city and clear easy to understand Spanish spoken.

8 hours would probably get me to France, though not in my own car :)

Kate

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 20 2004 15:03:02
 
Escribano

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Kate

Drove around the US coastline once. Took two weeks to get from D.C. to S.F. 6,500 miles on a rental and Budget nearly killed me. Great trip though.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 20 2004 16:01:47
 
Jim Opfer

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Escribano

quote:

Drove around the US coastline once. Took two weeks to get from D.C. to S.F. 6,500 miles on a rental and Budget nearly killed me. Great trip though.


Hey! Simon, hold on, I've added up all the things you've done and recon you've got to be about 75?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 20 2004 16:27:41
 
Patrick

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Jim Opfer

quote:

I must admit, having been to various parts of the States, Oregon was the only one I can say I could relate to. Very calm and easy going, and I liked the heritage of the scrimshaw artists there, which gave much to my (then) young imagination of a much earlier civilization and occupancy of the land.
Great times!


Ron,

I fully agree. The reason you can likely relate to Oregon (at least Portland) is about five months of rain and drizzle in the winter. But I'll take it any day over most of the world. No tornados, no hurricanes almost zero snow and ice...it doesn't get much better.

The only thing we have to contend with every now and then is Mt St Helen's blowing its top. Its been building up for one over the last few weeks. We are only 65 miles from the mountain.

Pat
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 20 2004 16:38:47
 
Patrick

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Jim Opfer

Kate,

You folks across the pond really have an advantage over us in the U. S. for access to other countries. If I drove four hours to the East or South, I'd still be in Oregon!

So when are you coming to Portland to visit your friends (and me)?

Pat

PS a bit of local info. It’s pronounced (Or-e-gun), not (Or-e-gone)
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 20 2004 16:52:57
 
Kate

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RE: Missed it! (in reply to Patrick

quote:

ORIGINAL: Patrick

So when are you coming to Portland to visit your friends (and me)?
Pat

PS a bit of local info. It’s pronounced (Or-e-gun), not (Or-e-gone)


I'd love to come visit but the only way I get to travel is if I organise a tour, and get to go along, or by some miracle we make some money. My friend once sent me apicture of amoose in his swimming pool. You can't imagine how surreal that looks to me. I got excited just seeing chipmunks in Wisconsin

Thanks for the pronunciation tip. So how do you pronounce oregano ?

Kate

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