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Ailsa

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Pulgar exercises anyone? 

As anyone who has watched my Seguiriyas upload will know, my pulgar is a bit flimsy . And no surprise because I don't have any exercises to practise it and make it stronger and more controlled.

Can anyone share something they have found useful?

Thanks

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henrym3483

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RE: Pulgar exercises anyone? (in reply to Ailsa

Hi Ailsa,

its a good recording and you have good timing, the only thing i will say is change the angle of attack to where the striking area is half flesh half nail and later on use the wrist and weight of your hand/wrist to get a heavier stroke

if i was advising exercises, id say get gerardos encuentro dvd and book, dont be thrown off because its gerardo and he is a guitar genius and maybe you think the material on it may be difficult.

the technique section is the most comprehensive i've ever seen and he really differentiates between the different types of pulgar technique.

only by tackling most of the technique section on the dvd and doing scales and chord patterns was i able to follow gerardos course this summer and take home 90% of the falsetas.
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Estevan

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RE: Pulgar exercises anyone? (in reply to Ailsa

You may find some of these usful:

http://www.ctv.es/USERS/norman/pmiexc.htm

http://www.ctv.es/USERS/norman/alzahist.htm

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n85ae

 

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RE: Pulgar exercises anyone? (in reply to Ailsa

Actually it doesn't matter really what you practice, it's more a matter of how you
attack the string with you thumb. That's what I got from watching the Gerardo
Video.

You have to consciously work on being assertive with the thumb, this is I
think the real key.

Jeff
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at_leo_87

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RE: Pulgar exercises anyone? (in reply to Ailsa

your angle of attack looks okay to me. it's pretty close to perpendicular to the strings.

maybe changing your thumb nail shape will help you achieve more nail into your attack.

instead of moving from the thumb joint only, try powering the movement from your wrist when you can. rotate your wrist like you're opening the door. and try to attack the string downwards into the soundboard.

just some ideas. i think you're doing great!

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Isa

 

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RE: Pulgar exercises anyone? (in reply to Ailsa

i like this alzapua
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/r/r_reguera/alzapua_power_tab.htm

but for basic pulgar i think its easier to just practice scales.
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Ailsa

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RE: Pulgar exercises anyone? (in reply to Isa

Thanks for those ideas guys. Am gonna work on it a bit and then upload something and see where I've got to.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 18 2009 0:39:21
 
Ailsa

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RE: Pulgar exercises anyone? (in reply to at_leo_87

quote:

instead of moving from the thumb joint only, try powering the movement from your wrist


Yes, YES, YES

So I just was practising some stuff - an exercise from Norman's site (thank you Norman ), a solea falseta which is all thumb, and I found loads of sections of the taranta I play which can be used as an exercise too. Already I can hear a difference in intention

Of course getting it there consistently will take a lot longer but you know, it's a start.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 18 2009 4:32:42
 
kozz

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RE: Pulgar exercises anyone? (in reply to Ailsa

What I found usefull is:
- pick a chord progression
- play pulgar on every string with the swing from the wrist
- next cycle play pulgar which rests on the next string

But I have to say when I am puzzling on a piece I seem to have forgotten all the above untill I feel comfortable with a part of the piece , so I can concentrate on the thumb (or any other technique) again.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 18 2009 6:27:46
 
Andy Culpepper

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RE: Pulgar exercises anyone? (in reply to Ailsa

Hey Ailsa,
I just tabbed out an AWESOME exercise for getting your thumb in shape..it's an alzapua for solea. My teacher showed it to me on the first lesson and I still practice it. I believe it came from Marote.

Enjoy!

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 18 2009 8:12:50
 
Ailsa

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RE: Pulgar exercises anyone? (in reply to Andy Culpepper

Hey Andy that's cool - thanks. I just had a quick try at that and I think it will be really useful.

Ashamed to say I don't know much about Marote except that a friend of mine John plays a really funky Bulerias falseta by him.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 18 2009 8:24:52
 
Andy Culpepper

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RE: Pulgar exercises anyone? (in reply to Ailsa

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ailsa

Ashamed to say I don't know much about Marote except that a friend of mine John plays a really funky Bulerias falseta by him.


http://www.flamenco-world.com/magazine/about/marote/marote.htm

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Mike_Kinny

 

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RE: Pulgar exercises anyone? (in reply to Andy Culpepper

quote:

I just tabbed out an AWESOME exercise for getting your thumb in shape.


What program did you use? It looks awesome.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 19 2009 5:41:37
 
Andy Culpepper

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RE: Pulgar exercises anyone? (in reply to Ailsa

I did it in Finale..then took a screen shot which I cropped and saved as a jpeg.

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RE: Pulgar exercises anyone? (in reply to Estevan

quote:

ORIGINAL: Estevan

You may find some of these usful:

http://www.ctv.es/USERS/norman/pmiexc.htm

http://www.ctv.es/USERS/norman/alzahist.htm


man I am loving those licks from Manuel Morao. That one example I am doing as 16ths not triplets, starting on count 3. Wicked synchopation.

Ricardo

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 20 2009 12:29:54
 
gato

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RE: Pulgar exercises anyone? (in reply to Ailsa

Isn't it true that spending the time is the essential element in learning technique? Great stuff, and I just happen to be working on my pulgar a lot more than usual. That is true. Thanks for bringing it up Ailsa. Have you tried improv??? Seems to be a godsend for me. Oh well, now it's time to practice and get off this wicked computer......
Gary

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