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Ron.M
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 RE: Where's Flo? (in reply to Doitsujin)
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Ouch!
That kangaroo looks ready to deliver the "coup de grace" where they jump up in the air and kick you as hard as they can with with their hind legs.
Would put any guy off sex for six months at the least! 
Anyway, this "faking it" story put me in mind of an incident on the Flamenco-Teacher forum many years ago.
This guy posted something which said " Is it possible to play Flamenco with a pick?"
He was absolutely laughed at and told it was not possible in any way.
He then uploaded something (A Sabicas Soleares if I remember right, with tremolo etc) and said, "I'm playing this with a pick."
"No Way!", was the response, "That's BRILLIANT stuff. There is no way you could ever do that with a pick!....Prove it....Show us the video!"
He didn't have a video, but uploaded some more mp3s with Tomatito stuff that he played, including the Bulerias from the "Encuentro" series.
"That's ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT playing!", they said. " The only way that could be done is that the mp3 has been edited or tampered with in some way....for there is no way you can play that well... ESPECIALLY with a pick!"
So the guy eventually uploaded a video of him playing.
The response was...
"You're a FAKE, man.....Your playing STINKS.....It sounds nothing like Flamenco....to play Flamenco, you've got to play it in the Traditional way with fingers or it's NOT Flamenco!!......You're a CHEAT....your playing is totally CRAP and RUBBISH!"
Aren't people funny?
cheers,
Ron
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Date Mar. 24 2009 12:32:50
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Florian
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From: Adelaide/Australia
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RE: Where's Flo? (in reply to ToddK)
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nice to be back 
i dont know what to tell you...paid work is paid work, i cant put it on a back for my ego, i am not that stupid..it wasent there when i went in..now theres new circumstances..real life is real life
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You have absoutely no honor or integrity whatsoever Florian.
I am beyond dissappointed in you. I dont even know what to say.Personally, i think we both know, you never stood a chance to even place
anywhere near the top of this challenge. The piece is way out of your league.
take it eazy ....lol u know i can read straight through your messages lol u always got the same tone when u fishing for reactions..
....you should quit while youre ahead .. take it eazy with the "honour" **** ..work is work
i got a draw full of unpaid bills and debts words like "honour" and "integrity" to you dont carry a whole lot of weight with me atm..
i am not gonna neglect real life oportunities to save face..expecially to you..
i got a gig i need to get ready for on saturday..what would you do ? practice this ? or try to do the things u gonna be doing in the gig to the best of your abilies and practice those
each practice consists of what i do the next gig, if this was a falseta or two or 3 in a typical key i could use with what i am doing for the gig, it would be fine, it would work good for me.. it would be different, i would kill 2 birds with one stone ..id get my work done and do this..it would be practical..
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The piece is way out of your league
well we can still judge that by the litlle of it i upload..i just wont do it all..and am not runing in the competition..or i can but i dont think its fair on those that do the complete piece
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intro, and the first falseta part should be enough to atealst show that i am not backing out, or is theres a really hard part u say its out of my league i can try that ..but i am not doing the whole piece..just wanna do enough to shut you up
its more in my interest to be well prepared for work coming up ..i cant sacrifice that for internet honour ..again....paid gigs superseed anything we do here
everyone knows that...surely..to claim anything else its absurd
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Date Mar. 26 2009 6:30:22
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Doitsujin
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RE: Where's Flo? (in reply to Ailsa)
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Thanks Florian you arent mad about my comment about the audio manipulation.. Lets forget that.  Thanks.
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well we can still judge that by the litlle of it i upload..i just wont do it all..
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intro, and the first falseta part should be enough to atealst show that i am not backing out, or is theres a really hard part u say its out of my league i can try that ..but i am not doing the whole piece..just wanna do enough to shut you up
I accept that you put making your life at the first place. I also would do that.
But as the host of this challenge, I dont allow partial played material for judging. The challenge is to play the whole piece. I will ask Ron to replace "fellow" with cowardly pussy" in your case.... sorry.
When I do gigs, I do the material I can already play. I dont do comercials with material I cant play... How do you do? I mean,..everybody has a repertoire which is for gigs. New things shouldt be acomplished before providing it for gigs,..no?
But your audio is very welcome to hear out of competition. So, if you find time, please send as much of the composition as you can play till the deadline to Ailsa or me.
I practice the composition only 2 hours at saturday and thats it. My flatmate is writing his phd-thesis at the moment and I dont want to disturb his concentration with playing my guitar. So, the challenge is quite hard for me. Ok, I also practice the piece before I play for dance every friday. Beside of that I want to win Jasons advanced challenge and also practice for that. 2 month is a very long time... I will be able to play it smoothly till the deadline with around 15mins practice every day. ;.) You could do that as well. Im sure. Just do it.
Maybe you make it till the deadline. I want you to suprise us! You can! Im sure. ;.)
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Date Mar. 26 2009 15:51:18
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RE: Where's Flo? (in reply to gj Michelob)
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i got a good feeling about this thread (....calling Koella....come in Koella....old foro is back....over....)
Flo you got to admit, its gonna look a bit like a backflip if you back out now I understands your reasons though, but im sure there will be more people like todd who will think your a yella' belly  Anyway do whatever you have to do, whatever happens im sure this thread is gonna rate higher than the gerry springer show
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Date Mar. 26 2009 18:11:02
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Florian
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Joined: Jul. 14 2003
From: Adelaide/Australia
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RE: Where's Flo? (in reply to cathulu)
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well like i said before..i am submiting stuff, i am not backing out..it will be there for it to be judged..i dont wanna comit to the whole thing..
its fine with me if its not going to be in the running, i accept that, i am submiting it to show if i can or cannot do it..and to show that i am not running, so if theres a really hard part let me know wich it is and il add that part to what i have allready intro and first falseta...i might even do more.i dont know
i am trying really hard to do right by both , this and my imediate needs
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When I do gigs, I do the material I can already play. I dont do comercials with material I cant play... How do you do?
well theres always new choreoraphies, old , new ( some we havent done in a while and are blury)..each to suit the event we playing for and the dancers and musiceans we have available..eg at the restaurant i needed 4 guitar solos, one cante acomp, 3 dance acomp, next one will be less guitar solo, more dance....
i also do stuff i can allready play for the most of it but that dosent mean i dont practice it before hand..and i always change litlle bits otherwise it gets boring..and i always try to build on it so it never stays the same..
u know its not like a tape recorder..its always different..dancers are always changing stuff, adding, singers do the same, i do also
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Flo you got to admit, its gonna look a bit like a backflip if you back out now
i dont think so ..i am not just saying i am out and thats it..i am not submiting anything, i am still uploading enough of it to be judged on it
so todk or doit feel free to suggest the hardest 1 or 2 falsetas for me to do to add to what i allready did intro and first falseta..i havent even looked past what i have done so far..
i think i am beeing pretty open under the circumstances
so a intro and 3 falsetas thats plenty , if i am considered or not in the official competition i dont care..i dont mind
if it matters that much i am open to compromise, suggestions ..but i am sorry i cant focus on the whole thing right now..
i think its prety fair..and yeah i might even surrprise you and find the time to do all of it..but i dont wanna comit to all of it..thats all
i know under the circumstances i appear bad atm ...but it just appears that way atm the fat lady will sing on the day..my audio will be there...might not be complete but it will be there..call me a chicken then
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Date Mar. 26 2009 21:03:40
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ToddK
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RE: Where's Flo? (in reply to Ailsa)
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well like i said before..i am submiting stuff, i am not backing out..it will be there for it to be judged..i dont wanna comit to the whole thing..
its fine with me if its not going to be in the running, i accept that, i am submiting it to show if i can or cannot do it..and to show that i am not running, so if theres a really hard part let me know wich it is and il add that part to what i have allready intro and first falseta...i might even do more.i dont know
i am trying really hard to do right by both , this and my imediate needs
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When I do gigs, I do the material I can already play. I dont do comercials with material I cant play... How do you do?
well theres always new choreoraphies, old , new ( some we havent done in a while and are blury)..each to suit the event we playing for and the dancers and musiceans we have available..eg at the restaurant i needed 4 guitar solos, one cante acomp, 3 dance acomp, next one will be less guitar solo, more dance....
i also do stuff i can allready play for the most of it but that dosent mean i dont practice it before hand..and i always change litlle bits otherwise it gets boring..and i always try to build on it so it never stays the same..
u know its not like a tape recorder..its always different..dancers are always changing stuff, adding, singers do the same, i do also
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Flo you got to admit, its gonna look a bit like a backflip if you back out now
i dont think so ..i am not just saying i am out and thats it..i am not submiting anything, i am still uploading enough of it to be judged on it
so todk or doit feel free to suggest the hardest 1 or 2 falsetas for me to do to add to what i allready did intro and first falseta..i havent even looked past what i have done so far..
i think i am beeing pretty open under the circumstances
so a intro and 3 falsetas thats plenty , if i am considered or not in the official competition i dont care..i dont mind
if it matters that much i am open to compromise, suggestions ..but i am sorry i cant focus on the whole thing right now..
i think its prety fair..and yeah i might even surrprise you and find the time to do all of it..but i dont wanna comit to all of it..thats all
i know under the circumstances i appear bad atm ...but it just appears that way atm the fat lady will sing on the day..my audio will be there...might not be complete but it will be there..call me a chicken then
< Message edited by Florian -- Mar. 27 '09 5:21:10 >
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1 falseta or 2 is fine but a whole solo 
i got alot of stuff i need right now 
...naughty florian 
