Introduction--Advice Requested!

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TPie

Posts: 3
Joined: Oct. 4 2008

Introduction--Advice Requested!

Hello gentlemen,

I've been playing guitar for a few years now, mainly classical. I got into flamenco a few months ago thanks to the Gipsy Kings. This looks like a really great forum, and I'm glad to be a part of it!

I looked for where to begin with my study of playing flamenco, but I'm clueless and have come to you for help. I have a pretty strong grip on the guitar, but I know nothing about flamenco (except that Paco de Lucia is amazing). Where do I start? Any suggested resources to invest in? I did a search of "beginner" on this site, but the items that popped up were "too beginner-y."

My original plan was to just play some tabs posted on the site and build my skill from there, but I'd like to see what you seasoned veterans of flamenco would suggest. If I had the right idea, could any of you suggest good pieces to start with?

Thanks a lot,

TPie

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 10 2008 20:19:18

Florian

Posts: 9282
Joined: Jul. 14 2003
From: Adelaide/Australia

RE: Introduction--Advice Requested! (in reply to TPie)

hi Tpie welcome to the forum mate

I understand what you are saying and that your skill is such that you can avoid the beginner beginner and maybe technically thats correct but i would still suggest something like Juan Martin , Oscar Herrero, Manuel Granados books or dvds l..

just because they provide a good base of understanding some of the palos and where they come from and the differences and how they relate to eachother and the meaning and feel each one is trying to achive...the typical keys they are played in, escobillas, llamadas, etc...

its alot of information

You correctly say you wanna base, thats good very disciplined...but u cant get that from just solo tabs ..

ofcourse you can study tabs too, but i personally dont think you should skip the books because is no substitute...sooner or later you are going to want to know more and are going to need to know more about the form..and its eazy to follow,
and each piece has a nice chapter of typical falsetas, history, techniques used on that piece...its seems like theres no rules and they are not engraved in stone but there are many unwriten litlle rules or standards that its not written down anywhere but its still expected to be in there...quickest way to learn for yourself is listen to 50 ( or whatever u can get your hands on) different interpretations of the same form, find the standards, similarities, differences etc..

work on one form/palo at the time

so i suggest checking out

quote:

www.flamencoworld

...listen to as many different guitarists as you can ( i think they all have audio samples)

check out one or all of the books...the Juan Martin book is actualy very well put togheder...we often bash him here

but the book does make nice sence..

Also if posible the compas cds are a great great way of developing a good knolodge base..as the solo cds are often open to personal interpretation by the artists but the "SOLO COMPAS cds" are mostly straight foward traditional playing and also usefull as they have practice track with just the palmas...its used for dancers to practice..

its alot to take in but i gues to me some of the things i suggested makes the most sense...and basically listen to absoluteley anything flamenco you can get your hands on...singing non singing, modern, traditional, everything.

theres tradition at the base of even the most modern flamenco guitarists you have ever heard,( talking of flamenco flamenco not nuevo flamenco) sometimes they venture but always return to the base or its clearely in the background...thats the difference between informed venturing and uninformed guessing...and in a audio you can spot it a mile away...

sometimes its the very difference between flamenco and not flamenco..(also a popular conversation around here)...eg> "when something stops beeing flamenco"

good luck mate, and ofcourse use the resources of the forum to your benefit, theres falsetas, compas tracks , anything you can think of for almost all forms..have as good look around the tab and audio postsa section

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 10 2008 21:51:45

TPie

Posts: 3
Joined: Oct. 4 2008

RE: Introduction--Advice Requested! (in reply to TPie)

Thanks for the information Florian. I'll be stopping by my local music shop soon and I'll see if I find the books that you mentioned!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 18 2008 10:00:48

Kate

Posts: 1827
Joined: Jul. 8 2003
From: Living in Granada, Andalucía

RE: Introduction--Advice Requested! (in reply to TPie)

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ORIGINAL: TPie

Hello gentlemen,

Welcome Tpie. Dont forget the ladies

Kate

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 19 2008 2:02:27

TPie

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Joined: Oct. 4 2008

RE: Introduction--Advice Requested! (in reply to TPie)

Oh Kate! I'm very sorry. I attend a college where the ratio of males to females is laughable (read: no women). But that's no excuse! Consider myself corrected.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 30 2008 18:44:20