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What about a Sevilliana?
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zata
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Joined: Jul. 17 2003
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When Kate's away, the mice will play... (in reply to Adam)
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Hi everyone, I'm on Kate's computer in Granada while she's on a day trip. She mentioned something about this sevillanas discussion... Sevillanas is not a form of flamenco, this isn't even a controversial topic, although I think a lot of foreigners think of sevillanas as flamenco, probably because of the similar (though not identical) costumes, and the presence of a guitar. But fandangos!!! About two thirds of flamenco forms are fandangos, literally hundreds of styles grouped under basic categories such as malaguena, granaina, media granaina, fandango de Huelva, fandango de Lucena, fandango can'e de Alosno, de Encinasola, de Santiponce (tons more from that area), taranto, taranta, levantica, murciana, cartagenera, fandango de Granada, fandangos personales.... There do exist folkloric fandangos, but no one involved in flamenco is likely to come across them. Fandango is a very old form popular all over Spain since the times of Padre Antonio Soler (17th century??) who even wrote one. And there is no such thing as "fandango grande", it's time to put that one permanently to bed.
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Date Dec. 8 2007 12:23:15
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Kate
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From: Living in Granada, Andalucía
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RE: When Kate's away, the mice will ... (in reply to Florian)
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Just got back from a lovely day in Almería, my brother in law even went in the sea which was lovely and warm. Ah bliss. Florian if you read the esflamenco page on Sevillanos it says "(De Sevilla). Canción folklórica procedente de la seguidilla manchega que se ha ido aflamencando. Nace para acompañar al baile que se interpreta en pareja en series de cuatro sevillanas. Es el baile andaluz que más se ha popularizado y, hoy en día, se bailan incluso en las discotecas. Antes se bailaba en los patios o casas de vecinos, también llamados corrales, y siempre se han bailado en las romerías y ferias de Andalucía. " No mention of it being flamenco, just 'aflamencando'. I think that makes it quite clear. It was not included in Carlos Saura's film as it is simply not considered flamenco, he dedicated a totally seperate film for this music style. In my ( very good) guide to Andalusian Flamenco it is categorised as a folk song, structured on the copla. No-one says the copla is flamenco. Perhaps you just have to be here to see sevillanas in context, ie the Romería, the fería, weddings and discos but never ever in a Flamenco Peña. Arash....... Rumba is also derived from folk music, and was adapted to the tango. I'll let Estela get back on and write some more if she has time before the show tonight and if she is GOOD. Kate
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Date Dec. 8 2007 20:11:18
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