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n85ae

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Woody Woodpecker Request

OK, this is terrible, but ever since Ricardo mentioned the "Woody Woodpecker"
it's kind of been in the back of my mind. There's of course many variations, but
I'd like if possible to see some different variations?

Basically some 12 count examples, which incorporates the quintessential Woody Woodpecker. :)

Yes, it's a slow day at work. BUT the good news, Tom at La Falseta just let
me know my new guitar has arrived. No, I'm not saying what it is until after
I've got it. I don't want any opinion's til I've had time to play it a bit.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 11 2007 19:22:54

Ricardo

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RE: Woody Woodpecker Request (in reply to n85ae)

ha ha ha ha HA HA!

Do you mean by variation, an alternative??? Here is one I use a lot. Counts 10, 11 12, 1, 2, 3, OK?

E------0(h)3-------------3(p)0---0---golpe------0--
B-----------------------------------2----------------3--
G---------------------3------------3----------------0--
D----------------2-----------------------------------3--
A-0--------------------------------------------------1---
E---------------------------------------------------------

Here is a vid of something similar I do to this above. That first round of compas.

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n85ae

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RE: Woody Woodpecker Request (in reply to n85ae)

Yeah, basically just variations from simple to complex. Material for practice. The
more the better. C'mon guys share :)

I have been heeding the advice of this forum, and been practiicing basics. Which
has been helping out a lot. I have adopted the difficult practice. of counting out
loud (i.e. "twelve and one and two and three ..."), and tapping my foot precisely.
It's a very challenging thing to do (for me), but it has helped immensely lately.

Last night I was practicing some of the Gerardo Nunez Sanlucar excercises I
found, took a break and dug through some stacks of stuff for something else to
try out. I stumbled on one of Henrik's old uploaded tabs, which a year ago I
could not play, and magically I realized I could play it by sight alone at slow
speed.

Henrik's video uploads (the bathrobe era), I must say have been tremendous
source of inspiration for me. It was I think the first Flamenco stuff I saw,
that inspired me with the thought, that it was within reach to be able to play.
Now of course, Henrik just keeps getting better, but that's a good thing. Thanks
Much Henrik!

I even broke out the steel string, and revisited some stuff as well. I have an
Al Dimeola song I learned a long time ago "Vertigo Shadow", which while I
know all the notes, had given me some difficulty. Anyway, I found this flamenco
practice has helped me to play that kind of stuff as well.

Thanks Much
Jeff

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duende

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RE: Woody Woodpecker Request (in reply to n85ae)

quote:

(the bathrobe era)

kind words, glad that my vids helped

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 12 2007 13:50:23

n85ae

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RE: Woody Woodpecker Request (in reply to n85ae)

Henrik -

Hey, some of your Bulerias uploads, are some of the best example of Bulerias
in it's basic form, and played well. Plus you tabbed some of it, I wish you had
tabbed more to be honest.

There's other stuff out there which is at about the same level, BUT a lot of it
is like OLD sounding Flamenco. Which I practice, but it does not sound modern.

That's a bit the problem. Beginning level stuff, that's out there is all old style.
Which is usefull, but the style you played is like simplified modern style, which
is exactly the kind of stuff I like working on.

I listen to Diego Del Gastor for example, and it's cool, but I listen to Tomatito
or Gerardo, etc. and I like the more modern style better.

Regards,
Jeff

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 12 2007 14:07:44

Jon Boyes

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RE: Woody Woodpecker Request (in reply to n85ae)

quote:

ORIGINAL: n85ae
That's a bit the problem. Beginning level stuff, that's out there is all old style.
Which is usefull, but the style you played is like simplified modern style, which
is exactly the kind of stuff I like working on.

I listen to Diego Del Gastor for example, and it's cool, but I listen to Tomatito
or Gerardo, etc. and I like the more modern style better.

You will like the Graf Martinez books if you don't already have them. Beginner to intermediate level stuff, in a modern style. You can spot simplified versions of falsetas by Paco, Tomatito, Quique etc.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 12 2007 14:24:51

Stu

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RE: Woody Woodpecker Request (in reply to n85ae)

Hi,
could someone post a link to the original "woody woodpecker" thread, I've seen it mentioned a few times and think it may be helpful to me.

cheers

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 12 2007 14:46:19

Ricardo

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RE: Woody Woodpecker Request (in reply to Stu)

quote:

Hi,
could someone post a link to the original "woody woodpecker" thread, I've seen it mentioned a few times and think it may be helpful to me.

I don't remember it being just ONE thread, we talked about it before many times. Basically in bulerias I was refering to this little standard arpegio played mainly with thumb, that you hear PDL and many others use quite often at the 10 11 12 spot in the compas.

E----------------3(p)0--golpe etc
B------------2-----------
G--------3-------------------
D----2-------------------------
A-0------------------------------
E---------------------------------

I was "complaining" that it was anoying to me how often I hear it played, but it is just me. Someone pointed out to me that I teach it to many students and I realize that is another reason it has grown old on me. It was a bit of joking around about woody woodpecker because of his annoying laugh.

I am not saying folks should NOT play it of course, just vary it a bit when strumming compas between falsetas, and this is JUST A SUGGESTION. Once anyone learns a bunch of things, you can play whatever you want on the fly, improvising. And you are free to play this woody woodpecker every compas if you like. There are no rules.

Ricardo

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 12 2007 15:21:07

n85ae

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RE: Woody Woodpecker Request (in reply to n85ae)

I don't understand why it's so used to be honest. If you just
take the following basic chord changes, I think the first sounds
kind of nasal, whereas the second in my opinion sounds a lot
better. Either one can be adapted to a nice little arpeggio which
are virtually interchangeable.

(this I don't like)
3-po-0--0
2---------3
3---------0
2---------3
0---------1

(this sounds better)
0---------0
2---------3
3-po-2--3
2---------3
0---------1

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 12 2007 15:38:49

Jon Boyes

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RE: Woody Woodpecker Request (in reply to Ricardo)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricardo

E----------------3(p)0--golpe etc
B------------2-----------
G--------3-------------------
D----2-------------------------
A-0------------------------------
E---------------------------------

I use it a lot and just realised I never conciously play a golpe - that would be on 12, yes, coinciding with the pull-off?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 12 2007 15:39:40

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RE: Woody Woodpecker Request (in reply to Ricardo)

Woody Wood pecker is a "Piliated Woodpecker"

We have them living in our forest behind the house here.
They really do sound like that

It not annoying to hear this bird in real life
It means the environment is healthy

But Ricardo you are right after a few years of use
this little thing
is something I try not to over use

This is a good thread

c

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 12 2007 16:10:27

n85ae

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RE: Woody Woodpecker Request (in reply to n85ae)

Just for what it's worth, I scribble notes like the following to remember
these things. Romerito's last one became:

comma delimits the beat
string/fret
parens encapsulate chords

5/1,p0,1/0,h5/4,4/2,3/3,p0,G,(1/0 2/2 3/0),G,(1/0 2/3 3/0 4/3 5/1)

Not sure if this is usefull, but for me it's much faster to type

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n85ae

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RE: Woody Woodpecker Request (in reply to n85ae)

I'd vote for the shorthand I use. But of course I suggested it :)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 12 2007 17:03:34

Jon Boyes

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RE: Woody Woodpecker Request (in reply to Guest)

quote:

ORIGINAL: romerito

Good idea but I am to lazy to do it both ways.
Which does anyone prefer?

Yours, its standard tab. Looking forward to the licks.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 12 2007 17:10:27

Ricardo

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RE: Woody Woodpecker Request (in reply to Jon Boyes)

quote:

I use it a lot and just realised I never conciously play a golpe - that would be on 12, yes, coinciding with the pull-off?

No. Golpe is next, like Romerito's "G". Reading left to right the golpe is on 1 (one), I just wrote "etc" after that. Actually what I really do (when I do this lick) is dig in harder on the 12 and catch the other notes in the chord with my index, then pull off.

E---------------3(p)0--G--0--G-
B----------2---2-----------2-----
G-------3------3-----------3-----
D----2-----------------------------
A-0---------------------------------
E------------------------------------

n85ae, it would take me several minutes to decipher all that, which is fret, which is string, etc. Tab is easier.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 12 2007 17:24:39

n85ae

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RE: Woody Woodpecker Request (in reply to n85ae)

It's a simple shorthand that I use, I find it easier to type. That's all.
Either's fine for me.

I just found an interesting thing. I went to Amazon, and the books
Jon mentioned are on there. The Vol 1 for example has a little link where,
you can click to display a random page. Well, if you click that enough, you
can see about half the books contents before they disable your session :)
At least enought to get about 10 pages of tab from ... Not that I'm suggesting
it. Just describing my experience.

Not sure if it would be as usefull for reading Tolstoy though ...

Regards,
Jeff

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Jon Boyes

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RE: Woody Woodpecker Request (in reply to Ricardo)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricardo
No. Golpe is next, like Romerito's "G". Reading left to right the golpe is on 1 (one), I just wrote "etc" after that. Actually what I really do (when I do this lick) is dig in harder on the 12 and catch the other notes in the chord with my index, then pull off.

Gotcha. Thanks.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 12 2007 18:18:34

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RE: Woody Woodpecker Request (in reply to Jon Boyes)

To really sound like the bird
you have to do the ligato on the E and A string as well

E---------------------------
B--------------------------2
G--------------------------0
D--------------------------2
A-----------0-1-3-1-0---0
E--0--3h-----------------

plus theres a little apregio thing you can do in there
on the B and G string----------

But the Wood Pecker doesn't do it

If you ever heard one of these birds pound a tree with its beak
you would swear its at least 10 times faster than your
fastest metronome setting
----but very accurate------

c

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