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http://cgi.ebay.com/Conde-Hermanos-Flamenco-Guitar-LIKE-NEW-very-nice-L-K_W0QQitemZ290075905979QQihZ019QQcategoryZ2385QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
is it classical ? is it flipe v ?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 24 2007 22:07:43
 
TANúñez

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RE: conde hermanos (in reply to Guest

I can't makeout golpeadores from the photos but it appears to be a student model classical from the Felipe V shop. Possibly a flamenco negra but the body looks too deep. More on the classical side.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 24 2007 22:23:34
 
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RE: conde hermanos (in reply to Guest

The label is undated I think. The label 'Guitarra de Estudio' suggests that it was bought in for resale. It is not a model in the Conde (Felipe) catalogue. Classical models EC1, EC2 and EC3 - Conde designed and factory built, with dated labels are described as 'Guitarra de Estudio' in the Conde catalogue. The EC1 could be purchased for less than 3000 euros. I suspect that the EC1 comes with a hard case as well. The label on the soft case of the ebay guitar carries the registered trademark symbol indicating that the case was purchased no earlier that 1999. From the information provided 3000 euros sounds a lot to have paid for this guitar.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 27 2007 11:34:10
 
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RE: conde hermanos (in reply to RobJe

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3000 euros sounds a lot to have paid for this guitar.


Any amount you pay for a new Conde is probably too much. At least if you pay for one here in the States.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 27 2007 12:40:32
 
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RE: conde hermanos (in reply to Guest

Other prices seem to be catching up! We love to beat up the Conde brothers at the Felipe V outfit - prices - who makes them etc - but they do turn out some fantastic guitars. You do need stong hands to play the better ones and it is easy to see why the casual player might not like them.
Similar criticisms were made of Jose Ramirez III who ended up as a manager rather than builder and had very high prices on the back of support from high profile players. The one difference was the practice in the 60's of putting the initials of the builder on the heel block - it would be nice to see a return of such curtesy and honesty. What RR III did that was impressive at that time was to get a consistent sound from several builder. He once challenged me to tell the difference between 3 guitars with my eyes closed - I failed the test.
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