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Martin

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Joined: Nov. 21 2004

Bulerias

I'm trying to get my head around this, (never mind my fingers). Is it acceptable to speed up and slow down? I'm thinking slower intro maybe, or do you have to keep a steady tempo going throughout?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 21 2007 14:28:18

duende

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Joined: Dec. 15 2003
From: Sweden

RE: Bulerias (in reply to Martin)

well i depends. there are musical speeding up and slowing down.
If you listen to sabicas hes going up and down.

in some palos you might wanna have more speed at the end for a climatic effect
or like pdl does speed up during picados and go back down after.

as long as you do it on purpose and in controll its fine

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 21 2007 15:16:28

Ron.M

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RE: Bulerias (in reply to Martin)

Martin,
Of course you can do what the heck you like if playing solo.
However, it's best to be able to play at a constant tempo and not use the "solo" reference to cover up timing errors or technical difficulties.
When you can play the form dead steady, THEN make the artistic decision of whether you want to speed or slow during the piece.
Thats my opinion anyway...

cheers

Ron

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 21 2007 20:19:45

legrec

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From: France

RE: Bulerias (in reply to Ron.M)

I totally agree on that !
My problem is that I was "hidding under the carpet" errors and difficulties by slowering the tempo and thinking "hey it's my own interpretation"...Now I try to play along with the records and howdy what a punch in the ****...(Sanlucar's Puerta del Principe, not so fast but hard to get each note right...and I miss the wondeful Carrasco at my side to improve my playing)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 21 2007 20:27:56

duende

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From: Sweden

RE: Bulerias (in reply to legrec)

quote:

I was "hidding under the carpet" errors and difficulties by slowering the tempo

Thats one of the BIG reasons to practice with a metronome. Even if your not useing it while playing a piece in consert.

Pdl said something like

-i prefer to listen to an inpure note played in the correct beat ,than to alter the rythm just to play it clean.

I think he was talking about how classical guitarists sometimes drag the rythm in difficult places just so they can keep their tone. And he thought it was a musical mistake to do that

and i think thats very true

PS I think you can find this in the documentary "Light and Shade"

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 21 2007 20:35:58

Arash

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From: Iran (living in Germany)

RE: Bulerias (in reply to Martin)

Another remark regarding speed: doubling the speed.
Sounds good. For example begining with 80 BPM and switch to 160BPM , etc.

For example you can hear it in Vicente Amigos Bulerias (like Rocamador) .He starts with very low speed and in the middle of the song he switches to faster and doubled speed until the end.

Arash

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 22 2007 7:44:48

Doitsujin

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RE: Bulerias (in reply to Martin)

quote:

If you listen to sabicas hes going up and down.

.. Yes and he also plays mistakes and directly repeats the uncorrect part correctly on recorded (not live!) CDs. Yeah yeah the past century.. they had it much easyer ....

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 22 2007 8:24:15