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What the heck is wrong on with Capullo?
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aloysius
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From: Adelaide, Australia
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RE: What the heck is wrong on with C... (in reply to chinito)
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I just got back from a month in Spain, and I saw Capullo's concert and followed the news coverage of the incident leading up to it. It appears that what happened is that, after a night of heavy drinking and an arguement with his wife, Capullo poured gasoline on himself and threatened to commit suicide. As he was shaking it out of the bottle, bits of it splashed on everyone in the room, including a baby. The baby's caregiver (grandma) was understandably angry at the potential danger, and pressed charges. In court both Capullo and her admitted to this version of events, it seems the Spanish press were the the main ones making it sound like something else. Charges were dropped a couple of days before the concert. The concert itself was great - Remedios Amaya with lots of her family (the only one in the 7 person group without the surname "Amaya" was guitarist Juan Diego) and Capullo with guitarist Manuel Jero (son of nino Jero and in my opinion the greatest living exponent of the Jero clan's guitar style, with nino Jero pretty much lost to drugs). Capullo wasn't in my opinion in the same league as Remedios, however he made up for it with charisma, even improvising some lyrics refering to the recent court case. - Aloysius.
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Date Oct. 17 2006 10:02:10
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zata
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RE: What the heck is wrong on with C... (in reply to sonikete)
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Record companies wants to make money, they´ll record someone farting if people would rush to the stores to buy it, they dont give a damn about quality or music itself for that matter anymore. It's not the fault of the companies. In order to cover the expense of proper promotion and distribution, they need to sell X amount of records. But the audience for cante is a small and unvarying minority. Flamenco has not changed. What has changed is the definition of what flamenco is in order to increase the audience. Definitions change, the music merely evolves. A couple of artists have timidly begun to try work via the net, but flamencos are still, for the most part, computerless. Lots of people would still love to hear some cante, and the person who figures out how to tap that market could be very successful. A more difficult problem is the dwindling stock of singers. Right now young people still have the memory of recently gone stars like Chocolate, Fernanda or Paquera, but living traditional cantaores are few: Agujetas, Rancapino, Chano, Bernarda....
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Date Oct. 30 2006 5:34:07
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sonikete
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From: Sweden
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RE: What the heck is wrong on with C... (in reply to chinito)
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It's not the fault of the companies. In order to cover the expense of proper promotion and distribution, they need to sell X amount of records. But the audience for cante is a small and unvarying minority. Flamenco has not changed. What has changed is the definition of what flamenco is in order to increase the audience. Definitions change, the music merely evolves. I think there is a growing amount of foreign aficionados of cante around the world with computers that could become a new market for it. Deflamenco for example could be the perfect place to try it out on. And i humbly have to disagree with that flamenco hasnt changed, flamenco has changed, the lifestyle and living conditions the old cante came from and was an expression of, doesnt exist anymore, so naturally the expression also change. And a lot of small recordlabels that had a genuine interest in music has been bought up by multinationals who only care about money, so i dont really agree there either. But i know what you mean by a definition change, commercialization. But i think a lot of foreigners are drawn to flamenco because the tradition has aspects of unyielding integrity, something seriously lacking in a lot of music (and people) nowadays, and making it more accessible is sort of debasing it. But you´re living with it, and im not, so im happy to be relieved of my misconseptions if im wrong.
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Date Oct. 30 2006 6:32:48
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zata
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RE: What the heck is wrong on with C... (in reply to sonikete)
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And i humbly have to disagree with that flamenco hasnt changed, flamenco has changed, the lifestyle and living conditions the old cante came from and was an expression of, doesnt exist anymore, so naturally the expression also change. That’s an “old wives’ tale” that people love to repeat. Flamenco was never about being disadvantaged, that’s a yuppie concept that came after the fact. People lived without electricity or human rights since the dawn of time – music is an integral part of any culture. Flamenco has always been about love, unlove, and death - the human condition. When someone sings the famous siguiriya which translated reads: ‘When you went away, they offered me little cups of broth, but I didn’t want any’, that is extraordinarily powerful poetry that speaks to everyone who has ever lost a loved one or been abandoned by a lover, and it’s absolutely timeless. The vast majority of cante is in that line, only a very small portion is overtly political or dated. As dated as the new verses about cell phones and batteries will be in the future. quote:
And a lot of small recordlabels that had a genuine interest in music has been bought up by multinationals who only care about money, so i dont really agree there either. The system has changed. Now records are marketed in a way that requires expensive promotion to cover costs. The photographer who took the picture that appears on Merce’s recording “Aire” was paid more for that single shot than the cost of my house. That’s a lot of records that need to be sold. Smaller companies don’t have distribution, the product never makes it to the shops, hence, does not get sold. quote:
But i know what you mean by a definition change, commercialization. Recordings that only 30 years ago would never have been considered flamenco, today would be marketed as flamenco: Las Grecas, Peret, Manolo Escobar... We all love this stuff, but to call anything flamenco that includes a guitar and some handclaps is just cynical commercialization. quote:
But you´re living with it, and im not I’m not going down without a fight, and it’s the main reason I do so much writing.
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Date Oct. 30 2006 7:02:55
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sonikete
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From: Sweden
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RE: What the heck is wrong on with C... (in reply to chinito)
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That’s an “old wives’ tale” that people love to repeat. Flamenco was never about being disadvantaged I dont mean that as much the stylistic changes even with traditional singing (less hardcore expression among younger singers) and lifestyle changes like that there are so many other things young people can do with their free time nowadays other than learning to sing marianas. quote:
The system has changed. Now records are marketed in a way that requires expensive promotion to cover costs. The photographer who took the picture that appears on Merce’s recording “Aire” was paid more for that single shot than the cost of my house. That’s a lot of records that need to be sold. Smaller companies don’t have distribution, the product never makes it to the shops, hence, does not get sold. I like Jose Merce a lot when he sings flamenco, he has an unbelivable voice, but i could easily live without a lot of stuff from some of his albums, so its a pity that the market for less commercialized stuff is so small, but i doubt you could reach a larger audience even with madonnas marketing if you are called agujetas. So the way i see it happen is using the channels that exist, like deflamenco, to sell music directly from the artist to the buyer. Then you get global distribution for a very low cost, and even if the marketing wont come near a josé merce, it is possible to promote it thru the site. For example if you recommended a singer and there where some recordings available for a resonable fee on deflamenco - i´d buy it. quote:
I’m not going down without a fight, and it’s the main reason I do so much writing. Good, keep writing it, i enjoy reading it, just as many other addicts i presume.
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Date Oct. 30 2006 7:22:18
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