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Ricardo
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RE: About Rondena (in reply to Matic)
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All the notes from the chromatic scale are game. Meaning you may also find G natural, A# or Bb, (please dont' use H, that is off my scale! ), and covers the whole chromatic scale plus the notes you mentioned. So the reason for certain accidentals, often has a tonic to dominant relation. For example, a G natural, pulls nicely an A7 chord to D major. B# as mentioned pulls to tonic, C# although the sound function is D7->C# major. Typical phrygian cadence, works either as tritone sub (G#7-C# you sub D7 for G#) or the "augmented 6th" harmony stuff a la Western classical music. So the other accidental was D#. That could be the move B7->E, or sometimes in Rondeña it is your "cambio" G#7-C# another form of the triton sub. Also you can hear the Eb-D resolution, sort of a brief D phrygian fake out. All the other notes in Rondena function modal, either D lydian or C# phrygian depending on what is going on. Oh, the F natural really should be spelled E# the major third of C#. Also you can use D lydian dominant or B melodic minor (the A# works their) to get that Manuel De Falla sound. Ricardo
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Date Aug. 9 2007 23:23:00
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Ricardo
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RE: About Rondena (in reply to Estevan)
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Yeah, that's if it's in a chord - I was just talking about lines. To me, chords ARE lines, or rather the notes of a scale heard all at once. So your B# is a totally legit chord. I mean D7 is the simple sound, but for the sake of theory, the spelling B#DF#A, is a legit chord. The augmented 6th, can't remember if it is German 6, Italian, or French, but it has a name. Always you find first inversion, DF#AB#. But what you were talking about is totally legit, lines or chords. I just think it is much easier to think "D7" so the note is C natural. One of those Augmented 6th chords sounds like D7b5, but the spelling again is inverted so it is G#B#DF#, and always in second inversion! LOL! One more scale I thought of was the 5th mode of harmonic major, which also has the "Manuel de Falla" sound and is good for any flamenco stuff. In Rondeña (based on C#) it would be C#DE#F#G#A#B. Sounds great with that D bass note too. Maybe "Cueva del Gato" uses that? Can't remember. That tuning allows for a lot of cool modal opportunities. Ricardo
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Date Aug. 10 2007 6:01:11
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