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El Rey De los Bagres

 

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Triplet rasgueo 

Hi everybody,

New user need some advice.

I am trying to learn some flamenco by using the book "manual didactico de la guitarra flamenca" by Manuel Granados . I am now trying to learn the alegrias nivel 1 where you come across the P ñ i rasgueo and would really appreciate if somebody could listen to my recording and tell me if i have the general idea down or not.

Since the recording on the CD is so much faster its hard for me to say if i am practicing it wrong or not.

I am playing slow at 72 BPM

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1tnP0Pii53E

Best regards, cheers and sorry for my poor English!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 29 2014 23:11:59
 
Ricardo

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RE: Triplet rasgueo (in reply to El Rey De los Bagres

Sound ok, but the rhythm more likely was supposed to be even triplets(?). The rhythm you make is two 16ths and an 8th, but I would think they would be 8th note triplets. Just a guess, I don't have the book.

Majority does P A I instead of the pinky.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 30 2014 3:01:00
 
El Rey De los Bagres

 

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RE: Triplet rasgueo (in reply to Ricardo

Thanks you very much for the feedback Ricardo. This is how it’s supposed to sound like http://vocaroo.com/i/s1MZIbM0RA98 i was playing to a metronome and thought that if I started the triplet on the beat as according to the tab and ending it right before the next beat and so on I would be in compás.

Could yo perhaps give me a pointer on how to count triplets?

Yes I know the P A I is how it’s mostly played nowadays but I want to learn all the classic rasgueos.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 1 2014 17:49:04
 
Leñador

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RE: Triplet rasgueo (in reply to El Rey De los Bagres

Your taking a small break between your sets of 3, they should be even. Though the recording your using sounds like it has a bit of speeding up towards the end of the triplets, I guess it's rubato for musical effect but you wouldn't generally do that in alegrias(some exceptions)......Maybe that's meant to be an intro of sorts??

Best way to count triplets, 1 and uh 2 and uh 3 and uh etc.........

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 1 2014 18:17:46
 
El Rey De los Bagres

 

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RE: Triplet rasgueo (in reply to Leñador

Thank a lot Lenador your input clarified things for me. Could you say that the “end note” of a triplet should always land just before the next beat to get that continuous sound or in other words space the triplet out evenly throughout the beat?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 1 2014 20:13:06
 
Leñador

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RE: Triplet rasgueo (in reply to El Rey De los Bagres

quote:

Could you say that the “end note” of a triplet should always land just before the next beat to get that continuous sound or in other words space the triplet out evenly throughout the beat?

You can't say always, your triplets could start before the beat and end ON the beat. Like:
and uh 1 and uh 2 and uh 3
or
uh 1 and uh 2 and uh 3 and
or like I said before
1 and uh 2 and uh 3 and uh

They should always be evenly spaced though.........

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 1 2014 22:08:09
 
El Rey De los Bagres

 

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RE: Triplet rasgueo (in reply to Leñador

Getting closer? http://vocaroo.com/i/s0fOMbk2embL
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 2 2014 2:00:58
 
Leñador

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RE: Triplet rasgueo (in reply to El Rey De los Bagres

Indeed, speed her up now.

I think you get that it's 7 uh 8 and ug 9 and uh 10.
no "and" on 7 cus it's two syllables.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 2 2014 2:09:22
 
El Rey De los Bagres

 

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RE: Triplet rasgueo (in reply to Leñador

Am i really or are you messing with me?

quote:

I think you get that it's 7 uh 8 and ug 9 and uh 10.
no "and" on 7 cus it's two syllables.


Yes sir you could say the 7 becomes the "and".
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 2 2014 3:02:33
 
Leñador

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RE: Triplet rasgueo (in reply to El Rey De los Bagres

quote:

Am i really or are you messing with me?

Yeah for real man, your on the right path for sure.

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