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El Burdo

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Jazz nylon gtr

Hi,

I want to make a guitar suitable for Bossa Nova/Samba accompaniment como Joao Gilberto. I have some 25 year old Indian rosewood that I want to use. As there will be some melodic soloing, possibly even with a plectrum, should I make a flamenca negra for the low action or a classical guitar for the greater resonance - but with the higher action? Maybe I could make a classical and lower the action a bit? What sorts of swings and roundabouts might be hidden? As far as I understand it, a flamenco set up allows greater playability and speed, more attack but less resonance. The classical affords greater depth but is harder to play. I don't know whether lowering the action on the classical would affect this depth of sound.

I also have some 25 yr old mahogany for the neck - I don't suppose the age has much to do with it, unless we're talking about soundboards, which unfortunately, we're not.

From previous posts I'm not going to use an undersaddle p/u.

Thanks. Grosseiro Gilberto.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 17 2013 21:33:26

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RE: Jazz nylon gtr (in reply to El Burdo)

One luthier who would be worth investigating would be Linea Bravo.. His guitars are used by such players as yamandu costa, marco pereira etc
I played yamandu's guitar awhile back it was basically a classical setup with a lower action along the neck but standard at tbe bridge Flatter neck
He didn't seem like the set up of my blanca too much especially for the right hand
I know nothing about making a guitar but these are some observations from a players perspective
A few of us here have a background in brazjaz playing..

The other thing I have noticed is most guitars have a 'raised' fretboard.. Meaning the neck not making contact with the soundboard...

7 string is the more common instrument

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tele

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RE: Jazz nylon gtr (in reply to Guest)

Flamenco negra would seem pretty good choice for jazz considering it doesn't have excessive sustain and you can play it with a pick also because you have a golpeador. I play occasionally jazz on mine and the sound is pretty suitable.

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RE: Jazz nylon gtr (in reply to El Burdo)

http://youtu.be/FKtgWJUSC6Y

If playing a lot of samba the technique requires a more elevated right hand.. Some resonance and sustain is in character of the music ..
If using a pick ( like Paulo Bellinati ) generally the right hand is above the strings, like jazz players generally have a suspended right picking hand , no contact with guitar...just pick and string... So a more classical action would be beneficial , as in archtops are in the electric world

Again I'm just coming at this from a players point of view

Brazilian guitars are different to classical and flamenco guitars,

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El Burdo

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RE: Jazz nylon gtr (in reply to Guest)

quote:

Brazilian guitars are different to classical and flamenco guitars

- they seem to be!

I don't like the look of raised fingerboards on classical bodies but I get your point about the height of the bridge. A lot of flamenco techniques evidently exert downwards pressure on the strings, melodic lines using rest strokes etc. so the height of the strings above the body at the bridge is not critical for execution. My need is for pianistic free stroke (tirando) playing of chords so I guess a higher bridge height would be better. A low action too.

So. I think I'll draw it out!

Thanks.

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