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Rmn
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RE: Stiffness of guitar (in reply to Rmn)
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RMN, You shouldn't have to make ANY modifications to a new guitar. If you do not like it, you should have the right to return or exchange it. Was this guitar built for you or did you just buy it? either way, do not spend any money or waste time trying to get a new guitar to play right. The way you like it. Don't waste anymore of your time and stress over this. Return it and find something that you like. thanks for the reply. i wish I could, the situation is a bit more complicated because the guitar was made for me in the end quote:
I have two Pedro De Miguels, Blanca and Negra. They are EXACTLY like this. They sound great when played hard, and on some days are just wonderfull. Other days you have to work harder. They never sound bad, just require more work. I still like them though. I have a Carillo as well, which is much more supple and easy to play all the time. However it lacks a certain sound characteristic that the PDM's have ... They are all definetly affected by humidity. Which of course they should, because they are all made of wood. Regards, Jeff ah thats very nice to hear! i thought I was the only one who is noticing this kind of issue. Well I mean mine never sounds bad either, but its just that with certain stuff you just cant work harder and there will be less sound coming out because there is so much tention. And mine as well, when it has a good day, man it plays and sounds awsome. thats why I want to look for a solution, because its a good guitar. a piano, like they say here. quote:
I think you should strive to meet Anders for an in person evaluation of the guitar. It is too difficult to address this problem abstractly without actually laying hands on the guitar. In the end this may not be your guitar. You guitar should be more reliable than this. Ok, there you have a good point. Indeed about the reliability. i get very nervous when i have a recording session or an important concert with press and filmcameras all around. Besides that I just love a guitar that plays good and is nor too loose nor very tense. To go back to Barba, he has a very good balance always in that in his guitars. Ojala that one day I will find a guitar like that or find a solution for this one. because it was nearly 3k
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Date Oct. 25 2012 22:41:31
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Rmn
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RE: Stiffness of guitar (in reply to Rmn)
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quote: ORIGINAL: Rmn If it gets warmer, the guitar will have more harmonics (seems like the strings have a longer vibration time) and it wil become reasonable to play. I dont think its the guitar itself that suddenly "gets" more harmonics, and if so only to a low degree, but rather the air molecules move differently when at a higher temperature. After all, all the sound we hear is the movement of molecules in the air. The playability also increase with temperature, but there again im not sure how much of that is due a warmer guitar rather than to simply having warmer hands. But its an interesting topic and still not fully uncovered as i see. Im not sure if this is something you wanted to address to too, but i am particularly interested in finding out what determines the tension of a string on a guitar. So far it always bothered me that the strings have all different tension and when choosing strings, i try to pick the ones with the lowest tension possible. thanks for that reply, haven't seen it yet. These questions I've already asked myself many times. And many times I thought it was my own pulsation of the hands or about the air molecules and movement of sound as a wave. But it really keeps coming to me that I think that it has got to do with the soundboard: either at higher humidity it gets more volume and that influences the tension on the strings, either the temperature makes the molecules of the wood of the soundboard more "loose" so that the whole top gets loose as well and that will influence the tension on the strings (less tension) and the sound (more harmonics) I also feel it very clearly when playing, when the tension is high its so crappy to play... For that, to prove to myself that I'm not crazy I want to buy a newton meter, a hygrometer, thermometer and keep a logbook. I just don't know if there is a method and an instrument (newton meter) for measuring the tension on the strings of the guitar. and wether I should measure the humidity and temperature inside the guitar or outside it
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Date Oct. 26 2012 10:12:51
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gerundino63
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From: The Netherlands
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RE: Stiffness of guitar (in reply to Rmn)
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just trust your feeling, it is way more sensitive than an istrument. A guitar, especially a new built one is moving around a bit. You are perhaps very sensitive for that, maybe you are more sensitive for other things too. When I used to get a new guitar in the past, i allways had the first year a love - hate relationship with it. When the sound is ok, I get picky on other things, playability, is the sound louder on this fret than the other? Is the bass more this, do I hear a side sound. Comparing with other guitars....etc.....etc. Sometimes the sound just drops dead, next day it is ok again...Maybe a higher or a lower bone, other strings..... It drived me sometimes mad. Than I learned to accept the guitar as it is, do not think about it anymore. Also I learned, that playability comes first, than sound. But that is maybe only personal.....
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Date Oct. 26 2012 10:42:39
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