Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos Sanchis Lopez 1F extra

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NewPlayer

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Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos Sanchis Lopez...

I am now down to purchasing one of these two? either a used Ramirez 1a from the 70'/80's or a new Hermanos Sanchis Lopez 1f extra Negra....

Any thoughts or does Ramirez sound like a quick winner? I have no idea as I have never played either but heard lots of great reviews and videos to support both..

My goal is to get a pure old school flamenco sounding guitar...

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bursche

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RE: Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos Sanchis L... (in reply to NewPlayer)

In my experience, Sanchis make fantastic guitars very once in a while. But you'll have to try many of them to find a good one.
All the Ramírez guitars from the 60's to 80's I tried were fantastic instruments too. I've never seen a bad Ramírez from that time.

I would always prefer the older guitar. Those old cedar top Ramírez guitars tend to sound really old school ;)

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NewPlayer

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RE: Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos Sanchis L... (in reply to NewPlayer)

Thank you for the reply. This is a very difficult decision. I like the idea of having my own brand new instrument. At the same time, its hard to say NO to a Ramirez 1a from the 60's/70's...

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C. Vega

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RE: Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos Sanchis L... (in reply to NewPlayer)

Should you happen to be thinking about the possibility of future resale, an older Ramirez would be much more likely to hold its value and, if you're able to buy one in decent shape for a good price, you might even make a little profit if you ever decide to sell it.

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bursche

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RE: Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos Sanchis L... (in reply to NewPlayer)

Honestly, I was more than happy when I was finally given the opportunity to change my Pau Ferro Sanchis for an old Ramírez blanca. Why do you even ask the question? Get a Ramírez!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 13 2012 18:33:38

NewPlayer

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RE: Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos Sanchis L... (in reply to NewPlayer)

So far it looks like Ramirez is winning by alot. Any Sanchis fans out there?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 13 2012 18:39:16

bursche

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RE: Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos Sanchis L... (in reply to NewPlayer)

Sanchis is nice but their guitars aren't old school sounding at all. They tend to sound quite similar to Conde guitars which is what's popular these days.

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C. Vega

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RE: Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos Sanchis L... (in reply to bursche)

That's because they probably make most of the Conde guitars.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 13 2012 18:57:45

bursche

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RE: Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos Sanchis L... (in reply to C. Vega)

Unfortunately, there's no way to show that I "like" your comment. Oh, wait! There is, I just did.

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NewPlayer

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RE: Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos Sanchis L... (in reply to NewPlayer)

Nealf- despite your comments. Ramirez or Sanchis?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 13 2012 19:35:33

bursche

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RE: Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos Sanchis L... (in reply to NewPlayer)

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Nealf- despite your comments. Ramirez or Sanchis?

ahahahahahaha

Olé!!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 13 2012 19:48:11

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RE: Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos Sanchis L... (in reply to NewPlayer)

NewPlayer, you're gunna be pretty hard pressed to find someone who prefers Sanchis to Ramirez.........

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mark indigo

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RE: Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos Sanchis L... (in reply to Guest)

quote:

The only way this could be excusable is if you are 9 years old or younger.

like a lot of posts....

this guy has been on the foro about 2 weeks, give him a break

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 13 2012 22:41:47

kikkoman

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RE: Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos Sanchis L... (in reply to NewPlayer)

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ORIGINAL: NewPlayer

Nealf- despite your comments. Ramirez or Sanchis?

lol this post deserves an award

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 13 2012 22:48:39

Guest

RE: Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos Sanchis L... (in reply to NewPlayer)

Ramirez?
I chose my 87 spruce blanca over numerous guitars on offer at the time
I guess the other consideration going by your post is blanca or negra...
The blanca will most likely give you the tone you seek.
Alternatively there are some fine luthiers here ....

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NewPlayer

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RE: Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos Sanchis L... (in reply to NewPlayer)

Thanks everyone, including Nealf for your responses...It looks like a used Ramirez will be the way to go...so far....

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 13 2012 23:53:53

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RE: Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos Sanchis L... (in reply to NewPlayer)

Hope you get to try a few guitars.....
Let us know what you end up owning
Good luck...

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mark indigo

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RE: Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos Sanchis L... (in reply to NewPlayer)

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either a used Ramirez 1a from the 70'/80's or a new Hermanos Sanchis Lopez 1f extra Negra....

play both guitars, decide which one you like best, doesn't matter what label is in it.

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RE: Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos Sanchis L... (in reply to NewPlayer)

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ORIGINAL: NewPlayer

I like the idea of having my own brand new instrument.

Why ??????

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RE: Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos Sanchis L... (in reply to mark indigo)

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RE: Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos Sanchis L... (in reply to NewPlayer)

quote:

either a used Ramirez 1a from the 70'/80's or a new Hermanos Sanchis Lopez 1f extra Negra....

play both guitars, decide which one you like best, doesn't matter what label is in it.

This is good basic common sense.

Ramon

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bursche

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RE: Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos Sanchis L... (in reply to Ramon Amira)

It feels better to have a guitar by a famous maker like Ramírez

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RE: Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos Sanchis L... (in reply to NewPlayer)

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RE: Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos Sanchis L... (in reply to NewPlayer)

Nealf- despite your comments. Ramirez or Sanchis

Regardless of the comments above I would never buy a guitar with out playing it first.

Good luck with your search for "your" guitar , I know how hard it is , we all do here if we are honest. Let us know how you get on .

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NewPlayer

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RE: Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos Sanchis L... (in reply to NewPlayer)

Thank you for your honest opinion. I will let you all know what I end up with...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 16 2012 18:29:21

NewPlayer

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RE: UPDATE- Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos S... (in reply to NewPlayer)

Hello,

I ordered the 72' Ramirez Blanca w/pegs and also ordered a HSL Bulerias model that I couldn't resist. I got a great deal on both. Ill let you all know what I think shortly....

Thanks for all your comments, they were very helpful.

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RE: UPDATE- Ramirez 1a vs Hermanos S... (in reply to NewPlayer)

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ORIGINAL: NewPlayer

Hello,

I ordered the 72' Ramirez Blanca w/pegs and also ordered a HSL Bulerias model that I couldn't resist. I got a great deal on both. Ill let you all know what I think shortly....

Thanks for all your comments, they were very helpful.

u lucky b*stard!!! enjoy the guitars mate!

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