Foro Flamenco


Posts Since Last Visit | Advanced Search | Home | Register | Login

Today's Posts | Inbox | Profile | Our Rules | Contact Admin | Log Out



Welcome to one of the most active flamenco sites on the Internet. Guests can read most posts but if you want to participate click here to register.

This site is dedicated to the memory of Paco de Lucía, Ron Mitchell, Guy Williams, Linda Elvira, Philip John Lee, Craig Eros, Ben Woods, David Serva and Tom Blackshear who went ahead of us.

We receive 12,200 visitors a month from 200 countries and 1.7 million page impressions a year. To advertise on this site please contact us.





Precious cases   You are logged in as Guest
Users viewing this topic: none
  Printable Version
All Forums >>Discussions >>General >> Page: [1]
Login
Message<< Newer Topic  Older Topic >>
 
Ruphus

Posts: 3782
Joined: Nov. 18 2010
 

Precious cases 

One of the opportunites that I still regret to have not grabbed was a truely stunning Gibson 12-stringer, offered to me for peanuts long ago.

That things wasn´t just the best playable and sounding steeler I ever came accross, but just its case alone seemed to have been manufacturered with more dediation than average instruments out there.
Covered with leather, equipped with solid locks, a smooth handle, and its lid opening like a queen´s casket.

I wonder whether there exist boutique manufacturers / shops that would be offering thelike for guitars / flamenco guitars still these days.
From the searches on the internet that I made, it looks as if such productions would have faded away internationally.

Sure, these days with all that common upcharge, such would very likely turn out too expensive, but I´m curious to see anyway.
Have you heard of such anywhere / got a link?

Thanks,

Ruphus
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 13 2011 15:36:59

C. Vega

 

Posts: 379
Joined: Jan. 16 2004
 

RE: Precious cases (in reply to Ruphus

I don't think that I'd want to know anyone that something like this would appeal to but here ya go anyway....

www.calderoriginals.com

The starting price for the classical guitar model is a mere 4500 Brit pounds.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 13 2011 15:44:24
 
Ruphus

Posts: 3782
Joined: Nov. 18 2010
 

RE: Precious cases (in reply to Ruphus

Thank you for the link, Charles!

It says "£3100" for a classical guitar case ( probably updated to current economics); not that it made the pricing any more reasonable, though.
Aside from that they seem to not have a CG case to show at all.

And the design really is gay ( worse even in the shop they link to, with those utterly ugly bags. Man; are practical and tasteful designers really so hard to find these days?)

Too bad. A carbon / leather combination, instead well designed and finished at a retracable price would have been interesting.

Ruphus
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 13 2011 17:31:01
 
Ricardo

Posts: 14835
Joined: Dec. 14 2004
From: Washington DC

RE: Precious cases (in reply to Ruphus

I have acquired a few of these sexy cases over the years. Love em:

http://luthiermusic.com/index.php/guitar-cases-covers/c-vgv-1-case.html

_____________________________

CD's and transcriptions available here:
www.ricardomarlow.com
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 13 2011 17:48:50

C. Vega

 

Posts: 379
Joined: Jan. 16 2004
 

RE: Precious cases (in reply to Ruphus

Ruphus,

It looks like the price is different for buyers in England and buyers elsewhere because of taxes, etc.
There are a lot of people who wouldn't pay that much for a guitar, much less a case.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 13 2011 19:18:03
 
Richard Jernigan

Posts: 3431
Joined: Jan. 20 2004
From: Austin, Texas USA

RE: Precious cases (in reply to Ruphus

Sometime in the early 1970s my guitar playing buddy Pat H. and I saw a magnificent case at the Mexico City workshop of Juan Pimentel Ramirez, the great luthier.

The case was covered in thick tan saddle leather. It was carved and stamped in the Aztec floral patterns one sees in firearms holsters in the southwest USA. The locks and hinges were solid metal, presumably brass, polished and gold plated. Besides an aroma of saddle leather, the case exuded an air of the highest quality.

The owner was there to pick up his guitar. Pimentel had done a little work on it. Pat audibly admired the case. The owner proudly opened it, showing the green crushed velvet interior, and a highly decorated Pimentel guitar of the first class. Pat asked where the owner had acquired the case.

Pimentel called for one of his assistants to supply a scrap of paper. The case owner noted down an address in the Colonia Independencia, not far from the hotel where Pat and I were staying, near the huge Buenavista train station.

The next day we hired a knowledgeable cabbie and set out in search of the case maker. The cabbie, despite decades of experience, said the address was unfamiliar, but not to worry, he would ask directions.

After more than an hour of criss-crossing the Independencia neighborhood, following doubtful suggestions, or just questing, the cabbie threw up his hands, shrugged expressively, and admitted defeat. Pat was crestfallen. Just at that moment a detachment of the Mexico City Police marched down the sidewalk, under the command of their corporal. He was putting them out on their beats in pairs, picking up the cops coming off shift.

The azules, named for their blue uniforms that distinguished them from the granadero riot police and the tamarindo motorcycle cops, had a formidable reputation. Young, fit, with white sidewall haircuts and spotless uniforms, swinging big clubs, they were known for vicious cruelty and sadism. If something bad happened, you wanted to be gone before the azules showed up, no matter which side of the law you were on.

Pat said, "Ask the azules for the address." The cabbie quietly, but terminally refused to have anything to do with them. Pat appealed to me, knowing I would have to avoid the appearance of cowardice.

I got out of the cab and approached the corporal. He surveyed me with disdain, until he glanced at my handmade boots and read me for what i was: a prosperous tourist dressed down for a dicey neighborhood. The corporal snapped off a salute, and said, "A sus órdenes, señor."

I stated my business. He responded with detailed directions, accompanied by sweeping gestures. I thanked him and returned to the cab.

"Well?" said Pat, grinning in anticipation.

"He doesn't know."

"He doesn't know? What the hell do you mean? I saw him giving you directions for five minutes!"

"Right. Still, he doesn't know."

"!!!???"

"Look Pat, you and Jeanie have lived in Mexico City. You know how people will give you directions when they have no idea what you're talking about, or how they'll say, 'Just a little further' when you're totally lost."

"Yeah, but he's a cop."

"And he couldn't afford to look stupid in front of his troops."

"How can you be so sure he doesn't know?"

"I just know, that's all."

The cabbie understood far more English than he had let on at first. More than once he glanced at me in the mirror, rolled his eyes slightly and gave a tiny shake of the head.

"Okay," I asked Pat, "do you want to follow his directions?"

"Sure."

After another fifteen minutes of twists and turns we ended up at a huge supermarket. The cabbie asked if we were ready to go back to the hotel. It wasn't a suggestion, it was a statement of intention.

Pat talked about that case for years. I would have liked to have one myself. On my next visit to Pimentel I asked him about it. Always taciturn, the Maestro just smiled, gave a slight sake of the head, and returned to the subject of ordering guitars.

RNJ
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 14 2011 1:20:07
 
Ruphus

Posts: 3782
Joined: Nov. 18 2010
 

RE: Precious cases (in reply to Ricardo

Thank you, Ricardo!

These already look better than common specimens, and I bookmarked the site.
However, they still belong to the more practical / protecting design class for carrying around, while I would like to see cases with focus on eye candy and craftmanship for use at home / only short and safe trips.

Thank you for clarifying, Charles!
It must be telling about taxes in GB, which seem to be even heftier than in Germany.

Nice story, Richard.
( I´ve been waiting for dizzy Hemingway, sitting at a small coffee table outside a mini café, waving at you homemates to come over and share a tequilla with him.)
Your Mexican event shows that we are after the same thing.

If you as a wealthy voyager havn´t been succesful with finding such ( already back then!) than it must be a sign for how rare and exclusive thelike production must be today.

If I had been in your place, besides, I wouldn´t have let go that easily / friendly pested sen. Ramirez until he either admitted to not know or hopefully started digging out the phone no. / address. ( When about relevant contents, the finer etiquette goes out the window; hehe )

Weird anyway, how he wouldn´t take the chance to have his guitars grafted with such cases / at least offer the choice to his customers.

Ruphus
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 14 2011 9:50:41
 
Ruphus

Posts: 3782
Joined: Nov. 18 2010
 

RE: Precious cases (in reply to Ruphus

quote:

Dear sirs,

Sometime in the mid Eighties I was offered a Gibson guitar, which to this day I regret to have not bought.
This guitar also came in a stunning, handcrafted case covered with leather. Something I don´t seem able to find these days.

Can you kindly tell me by any chance where such precious cases can be had these days?

Thank you for your kind efforts and

with best regards


It just came to me to send Gibson an inquiry.
Curious to see what they say.
( I´m almost willing to bet, that it be something to the extent of: "Sorry, but the manufacturer who used to produce these cases for us, no longer exists", or so.)
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 14 2011 10:11:17
 
Richard Jernigan

Posts: 3431
Joined: Jan. 20 2004
From: Austin, Texas USA

RE: Precious cases (in reply to Ruphus

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ruphus

If I had been in your place, besides, I wouldn´t have let go that easily / friendly pested sen. Ramirez until he either admitted to not know or hopefully started digging out the phone no. / address. ( When about relevant contents, the finer etiquette goes out the window; hehe )

Weird anyway, how he wouldn´t take the chance to have his guitars grafted with such cases / at least offer the choice to his customers.

Ruphus


Of all my acquaintance, the luthier Juan Pimentel of Mexico City was among the most upright and ethical.

Having known Pimentel for a few years at that point, I instantly concluded that he had his reasons for not wanting to be involved in any way with the case maker. He may or may not have known how to contact him, but if he did he wasn't going to take on the karma of telling me.

RNJ
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 14 2011 17:23:54
 
Ruphus

Posts: 3782
Joined: Nov. 18 2010
 

RE: Precious cases (in reply to Ruphus

I see.

Upright and ethical, how do I miss these edelweiss. They must have retracted to a cave on the other side of the planet.

Damn, I would sacrifice some of my dusty karma for such a beautiful guitar case. After all it seems not worth a lousy penny anyway.
The karma, I mean.

Ruphus
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 14 2011 17:50:24
Guest

[Deleted] (in reply to Ricardo

[Deleted by Admins]

_____________________________

  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 14 2011 21:27:02
 
turnermoran

Posts: 391
Joined: Feb. 6 2010
 

RE: Precious cases (in reply to Ruphus

If it's all about eye candy, then this probably won't excite, but I have a Hoffee case, and you gotta give it to the maker for his strength testing videos:

  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 15 2011 19:38:32
 
Ruphus

Posts: 3782
Joined: Nov. 18 2010
 

RE: Precious cases (in reply to turnermoran

Polyethylan, glass- and carbon fibre cases without question have their place for travelling demands.

But this is more about esthetics of noble containers for complying / flattering beautiful instruments.
Kind of like a neglige in the foreplay, when heavy latches snap open to present a humming gem to you.

I believe the violine fraction to still be having such kind of cases available. Why mustn´t we anymore.

Ruphus
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 16 2011 10:31:06
Page:   [1]
All Forums >>Discussions >>General >> Page: [1]
Jump to:

New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts


Forum Software powered by ASP Playground Advanced Edition 2.0.5
Copyright © 2000 - 2003 ASPPlayground.NET

0.21875 secs.