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A quite unusal Granaina - Michele Iaccariono
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Arash
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RE: A quite unusal Granaina - Michel... (in reply to Ramon Amira)
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ORIGINAL: Prominent Critic Well, it's unusual, but it's not an unusual Granadinas, since it isn't even Granadinas at all. Just because he plays a lot of unusual stuff and calls it "Granadinas" doesn't make it Granadinas – it's still just a lot of unusual stuff. If someone plays a Bach Fugue and calls it "Bulerias" does that make it Bulerias? This bears as much relationship to Granadinas as a Bach Fugue does to Bulerias. I listen to all kinds of music, and I'm perfectly happy to take that music on its own terms, and even like it and enjoy listening to it, but why on earth is he calling it Granadinas when it has nothing to do with Granadinas. starting @1.25 to 1.56 (and some other parts) - i personally gave my OK to Granaina title. But yes, its Borderline. A tiny bit more experimental stuff in this piece, and i wouldn't call this flamenco at all (not to mention granaina). But since you once mentioned that Paco is "off topic" and not flamenco at all, i am surprised that you could even listen to this piece for 10 seconds So, thanks for your patience and open mind in this case. At least you gave it a chance.
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Date Jun. 26 2010 7:31:25
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Ramon Amira
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RE: A quite unusal Granaina - Michel... (in reply to Arash)
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But since you once mentioned that Paco is "off topic" and not flamenco at all, i am surprised that you could even listen to this piece for 10 seconds So, thanks for your patience and open mind in this case. At least you gave it a chance. Yes, I remember saying that, but of course it was just supposed to be a joke. I've been involved in flamenco for forty years as a performer, teacher, critic, author, etc., and it would be preposterous for anyone to say in a serious tone that Paco isn't flamenco. Clearly – besides being the greatest technical virtuoso ever – he is one of the most, if not THE most, influential figures in the entire history of flamenco, along with I would say Ramon Montoya, Nino Ricardo, and Sabicas. The problem with the printed word on the internet is that when someone tries to say something funny or make a joke you can't see the twinkle in their eye, or the mischievous smile on their face. I listen to and watch Paco all the time, and when I'm finished I always have to immediately do one thing – go practice my picado!
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Date Jun. 26 2010 15:14:38
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Arash
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RE: A quite unusal Granaina - Michel... (in reply to Ramon Amira)
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ok, prominent, if that thread in the oldschool foro was ironic and a joke (honestly i didn't feel you were joking at that time, it seamed to be a very serious discussion), then you should have said that yoú were joking at that time in this foro, to avoid misunderstandings...... i really thought you guys (you, captain bob, etc.) really think that paco is not flamenco at all and totally off topic, etc.. but of course if you say so, i have to believe you now. thank you for clarifying that now. yeah smileys are good, but even with smileys its no guaranty, as i experienced it myself quite a few times ->> p.s. even if you would really think that paco is off topic, its not a big deal. its your right to think whatever you want. it would just be a little weird, thats all.
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Date Jun. 26 2010 16:12:56
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