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Jim Opfer

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From: Glasgow, Scotland.

A bit early but any views yet on VA's new album?

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SeanGregory20

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Joined: Oct. 31 2004
From: Seattle, Washington

RE: VA (in reply to Jim Opfer)

Jim, I had a great experience with Vicente's new album last night. I rang a friend and told her that his new album had just arrived at my house. I supplied the smokes and she supplied the booze. It was a long night!!! In my opinion, its really an improvement from "City of Ideas." There is still that jazzy feel, but its never uniform throughout the whole album. In fact, my friend and I agreed (this was at 3:30 in the morning while drunk, so bear with me here) that the album as a whole doesn't really fit into any clean cut categories, unlike Poeta and City of Ideas. Its really all over the place. It trully is "emotional drunkeness." To say the least, its a mysterious album that leaves you guessing. I would highly recommend it!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 13 2005 23:11:24

gerundino63

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From: The Netherlands

RE: VA (in reply to Jim Opfer)

Hi Jim!

A very nice album! modern, but also very flamenco!
nice singing, nothing is overdone.

The Solea is very very beautiful, and Vicente keeps the roots very clear.

There is a bandoleon in a few stacks, and that is done too nice and tasty

Also on a track is used a band, and another an orchestra, some solo pieces, so it is overall a very variated, and I am sure everybody find something nice in it.

Ofcourse this is my oppinion,

All the best, Peter

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 14 2005 0:16:58

Jim Opfer

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RE: VA (in reply to Jim Opfer)

Hi Sean and Peter,

I think it's all over the place as well.
Very strange ending to the Solea, just sort of cut off! And that mouth organ (moothie) doing the French thing...I just don't know.
I don't feel in a rush to put it back on, nothing really jumped out screaming at me.
I don't like paper CD covers either.

Och!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 14 2005 19:01:35

gerundino63

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From: The Netherlands

RE: VA (in reply to Jim Opfer)

Well Jim.....

You can allways use the cd on the table under your beer, and I am sure you find a proper way to use the paper cd cover.........

Perhaps you must hear it a few times, I have the strainge thing with VA that some things I am lyric about, and other things I find ugly.
But when I hear it a few times, the ugly things get better, and the nice things are even nicer.

Peter

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 14 2005 19:10:59

Jim Opfer

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RE: VA (in reply to gerundino63)

I know what you mean Peter, yes, give it time.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 14 2005 22:52:26

Guest

RE: VA (in reply to Jim Opfer)

In can almost hear Ralph Towner and John Abercrombie in places. My only complaint is too much reverb on the stripped down pieces, it really does get intrusive. But, that is just my opinion as I'm a dry sound guitar man

It's a great piece of work. Just on a technique level those ras's send a shiver down my spine. Duende!!!

I think we are living in good times when we can sit and listen to fine quality from VC and La Tana. What do you think to the La Tana? I mainly listen to 'traditional', but the La Tana really satisfies. Great guitar, commited cante and awesome feel.

Ole, Andy.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 15 2005 8:54:23

duende

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From: Sweden

RE: VA (in reply to Jim Opfer)

I like La Tana´s cd a lot. Have Vicente and La Tana in my Md playing all day

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 15 2005 8:58:40

Kate

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From: Living in Granada, Andalucía

RE: VA (in reply to Jim Opfer)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jim Opfer

I don't like paper CD covers either.

Och!

Agh Jim, everyone these days wants these new digipaks as they are called here. Its a bugger as they are far more expensive to have made than the jewel cases with inlays but the musicians like them ever since Tomatito did his last CD in digipak..

Kate

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 15 2005 12:40:53

Jim Opfer

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RE: VA (in reply to Kate)

Hi Kate,

When I got Tomo's, I thought, Oh! No. a digipak! Yught!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 15 2005 12:46:07

Kate

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RE: VA (in reply to Jim Opfer)

I've never felt the same since they stopped LPs. Just cant feel the same about CDs. These days I find it bloody hard to read the small print

Kate

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 15 2005 13:33:20

Guest

RE: VA (in reply to Jim Opfer)

Kate, we are both reaching the age where it's allowed to sometimes use reading glasses

. And you dont have to wear them around your neck in a golden chain when you dont use them

Concerning VA. I got the album yesterday, and I've had the possibility to listen to it twice this morning while I was working. First impressions are that it's a wonderfull and very deep album, which'll be in my CD player many hours.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 16 2005 11:05:05

Kate

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RE: VA (in reply to Guest)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Anders

Kate, we are both reaching the age where it's allowed to sometimes use reading glasses . And you dont have to wear them around your neck in a golden chain when you dont use them

Sad but true. I fancy the half moon ones which my Grampy used to wear, so you can peer over them and look very intellectual, or perhpas a monocle for that eccentric look

As much as I like VA's music I can't stand his CD covers. He always looks such a mooning whoosh. Like he's been bullied and has been left alone in the playground. He said himself the attitude was the hardest thing about flamenco, poor thing he's just too pretty. I know I know, this is very shallow and its the music that matters and you cant judge a book by its cover etc. I know I must be mad but offered a choice between a date with Vicente and one with Capullo de Jerez, I'd go out with Capullo

Kate

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 16 2005 11:16:07

SeanGregory20

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From: Seattle, Washington

RE: VA (in reply to Kate)

Quote:

As much as I like VA's music I can't stand his CD covers. He always looks such a mooning whoosh. Like he's been bullied and has been left alone in the playground.

Come on Kate, he's the sensitive, emotional, artistic type.

I remember showing the cover of "De mi corazón al aire" to one of my buddies and his respnse was "boy that guy looks creepy"

Although, I wonder how much of his image is produced by the record company. I remeber seeing this horrible picture of him with his guitar in a swimming pool!! I wonder how much is just commercial image and how much is his real personality. Has anybody in this forum met vicente?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 17 2005 20:21:22

Ron.M

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RE: VA (in reply to SeanGregory20)

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Come on Kate, he's the sensitive, emotional, artistic type. I remember showing the cover of "De mi corazón al aire" to one of my buddies and his respnse was "boy that guy looks creepy"

As Billy Connolley would say " Looking windswept and interesting!"

LOL!

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 17 2005 20:56:10

Kate

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RE: VA (in reply to Ron.M)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ron.M

quote:

Come on Kate, he's the sensitive, emotional, artistic type. I remember showing the cover of "De mi corazón al aire" to one of my buddies and his respnse was "boy that guy looks creepy"

As Billy Connolley would say " Looking windswept and interesting!"

LOL!

Ron

je je je I agree with your friend,

Kate

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 18 2005 13:29:32

Miguel de Maria

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RE: VA (in reply to Jim Opfer)

It seems to me that Vicente's musical personality and his commercial image seem quite similiar, "Vampirish" as my wife put it. Funny, I would think that the ladies would fancy him, but seems it's not so! A lot of his music is somber and macabre, too, I think. Although I like that sound!

It's kind of funny, but most guitarists are pretty ugly. Album cover after album cover of guys with faces for radio. Don't you think they would selll more albums if they found a nice young dancer and put it on the front? That's what I would do...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 18 2005 14:59:41

Kate

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RE: VA (in reply to Miguel de Maria)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Miguel de Maria
Don't you think they would selll more albums if they found a nice young dancer and put it on the front? That's what I would do...

Hmmm but you wouldn't need to

Kate

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 18 2005 15:22:47

Miguel de Maria

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RE: VA (in reply to Jim Opfer)

I know, but if....

:)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 18 2005 15:54:16

sorin popovici

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RE: VA (in reply to Jim Opfer)

I'm listening it right now ...I dont know i have to listen some more.

So far I listened 5 tracks . I listened the taranta " un momento in el sonido" which is at least
interesting .Listening now the tangos which I like ....and I seem to like the cante from this tangos...too bad I dont know what are they saying.

I've read an interview on flamenco-world about this album here :

http://www.flamenco-world.com/artists/vicenteamigo/vicenteamigo04042005-1.htm

Damn ,i'm listening Bolero a Marcos ....like the acordeon (i cant name this instrument in english ...sorry) ...it sounds a little like an Astor Piazzola song...but is probably only the sounds of that instrument.

ok,i'll do more listening and maybe I'll say more then.

Silia Y El Tiempo this is starting to be good (like the voices on the back).

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2005 11:46:25