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Miguel de Maria

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Ricardo, what about picardo? 
Richard,
I remember you talking about Paco's picado last year on FT, saying that his fingers are incredibly fast in that, not only do they play notes with great velocity, but that they MUTE the notes, so that the necessary speed is even greater.

I was wondering if you have mastered this technique or learned anything more about it, and if you have any pointers to hand out. I love that stacatto sound, but can't play stacatto very quickly.

Gracias!
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Ricardo

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RE: Ricardo, what about picardo? (in reply to Miguel de Maria) 
Man I just wrote a long speil and I got logged out somehow before posting and lost it all.

Basically I was going to say it sounds like you get the idea of staccato, putting a "little blade of silence" between the notes, as Felix Grande says in Paco's DVD. Practice on the open string to find your "speed limit" or tempo, and work from there. Watch you hand in the mirror and notice how your fingers don't move as much as usual. Try to always have just that small amount of movement.

Use for any medium speed 8th note melody you already know, like Sevillanas. Or improvise on some medium speed rumba. You don't have to just run scales all day, you can be musical while practicing this technique. Anyway, no matter what your speed limit is, you will sound tight and controlled and in rhythm if you practice this and the sound will be "fast enough" for anyone. Scott Tenant has some good speed burst exercises that use staccato on open strings in his pumping nylon vid. But that is not really musical. Apply the idea to anything you play w/ rest strokes.

Ricardo
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RE: Ricardo, what about picardo? (in reply to Ricardo) 
Hello Richard!

Is it worth buying the video even though I got the book already?

Also, when you were starting out did you practice by a specific schedule or did you "just" play?

I find that it's hard to get a balance when practicing, especially since picado takes alot of time and I really want to get that together, but not at the expense of sucking at everything else. Any tips?

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duende

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RE: Ricardo, what about picardo? (in reply to JonBjork) 
Nice to see you write some pm´s Jon.
I have also wonderd about this staccato thing. I always practice scales staccato but how staccato should it be? For practice purpose i mean. I play staccato but you can hear every note. Would it be good to practice "super staccato" just for the practice?? (almost kill the note before it sounds) Any suggestions?


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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 23 2004 15:33:13
 
Ron.M

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RE: Ricardo, what about picardo? (in reply to Ricardo) 
quote:

Man I just wrote a long speil and I got logged out somehow before posting and lost it all.


Richard,
It's a real bummer when that happens!
You've got to watch out for that here! Sometimes it happens, other times not.
Best to highlight and copy to clipboard every now and then or use notepad etc if you're gonna be writing something long.

cheers

Ron
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 23 2004 16:21:23
 
Ricardo

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RE: Ricardo, what about picardo? (in reply to duende) 
Henrik, I would say "super staccato" is good if you can do it. 8th notes with a 16th rest in between each note is minimum:1(e)&(ah), etc. If you can kill it quicker, great, but this also means you can bump up your tempo too. That is why the metronome is good, it helps you find your speed limit so you can work from there and progress. Practicing scales of course is good, but I have seen a lot of students doing fret hand staccato w/ out realizing it when they go a little quicker. Make sure you are making it happen w/ open strings first.

The best practice would be to take on a student so you can work on it together in a lesson. I don't practice anymore, I get enough in teaching lower level students since we go over the basics repeatedly. You learn a lot teaching something to someone else.

Ricardo

PS, the Pumping Nylon video is way more clear than the book. I recommend it.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 23 2004 20:59:06
 
duende

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RE: Ricardo, what about picardo? (in reply to Ricardo) 
I´ve seen the video. Have the book..Great book!!!
When i change string it´s quite impossible to mute the string with the Picado hand( right hand)
Isn´t it? Do you mute with the left at that moment or..?? i do.
About teaching. I work fulltime as a guitar teacher. So i use the easy beginners materials to work on diffrent fingerings in picado. he he he..I ,A and M,A and so on. While the poor girls/boys stuggle to hit one string..

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 23 2004 21:35:48
 
Miguel de Maria

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RE: Ricardo, what about picardo? (in reply to Ricardo) 
Cool, Richard, thanks for the advice. December has been slow for me so I have been woodshedding like mad! I am bringing the silence (in the picado), thanks to Todd and youse.
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