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Estevan

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Last part of soleá 

Maybe everyone but me knows the answer to this question, or perhaps there are other continuing newbies who would also like to know...

Sometimes towards the end of a soleá the singer will go into the major key and speed up a little so that it sounds almost as if it finishes with a couple of compases of alegrías.
Does this kind of ending have a name? (Or is it just baile that has a name for everything?)

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Ricardo

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RE: Last part of soleá (in reply to Estevan

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ORIGINAL: Estevan

Maybe everyone but me knows the answer to this question, or perhaps there are other continuing newbies who would also like to know...

Sometimes towards the end of a soleá the singer will go into the major key and speed up a little so that it sounds almost as if it finishes with a couple of compases of alegrías.
Does this kind of ending have a name? (Or is it just baile that has a name for everything?)


It's called "bulerias". Really.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 14 2010 11:51:54
 
Estevan

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RE: Last part of soleá (in reply to Ricardo

Really? (No, seriously; it doesn't sound like bulerias). Ok. Thanks.

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Ricardo

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RE: Last part of soleá (in reply to Estevan

Listen to jerez bulerias, it always turns major at the end, often those exact letras are used for ending solea. and it need not turn major, depends on singer. somtimes major and they turn back. but those are bulerias.

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Ramon Amira

 

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RE: Last part of soleá (in reply to Estevan

Yes, it's Bulerias.

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Arash

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RE: Last part of soleá (in reply to Estevan

also alegrias itself can speed up and end as a bulerias Estevan

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Estevan

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RE: Last part of soleá (in reply to Arash

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also alegrias itself can speed up and end as a bulerias Estevan
Yes I know that - but in that case it very obviously sounds like bulerias.


Thanks all.

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RE: Last part of soleá (in reply to Ricardo

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It's called "bulerias".


So what's a juegetillo? Or have I just made that up? Is it a figment of my flamenco-obsessed brain's imagination? Am sure I heard that somewhere.

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veet

 

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RE: Last part of soleá (in reply to Estevan

Some call it a cierre, closing. A short estribillo, formally tying everything up neatly, uptempo signaled by the singer with palmas. Last line is sometimes repeated, sometimes not. Sometimes an 'eje' interjected to signal ending on the next 10 count.

Example letras:

Yo te querio, ya no te quiero
tengo en mi casa enero, nuevo

tengo un canasto, tengo un canasto
lleno de almendras hasta los, brazos.
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Estevan

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RE: Last part of soleá (in reply to veet

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A short estribillo, formally tying everything up neatly

That's it.

Some examples:

Menese - at 5:09


Mairena - at 6:05 - "Yo te quería..."


Fernanda - at 5:52


Sordera - at 6:08 [with Moraito sitting in for Manuel Parrilla ]


Jose Merce - at 7:33


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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 15 2010 14:44:16
 
Estevan

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RE: Last part of soleá (in reply to Ailsa

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So what's a juegetillo? Or have I just made that up?

You made up "juegetillo", but as far as I know (not very far) a juguetillo is part of alegrías

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