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MarcChrys

 

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Rosette Designs 

If this has been covered before, then, could someone kindly direct me to the thread - but I was just wondering *where* the individual designs for the rosette around the soundhole come from?

I find them intriguing, and some very beautiful - so this started me thinking whether they have some deep symbolism, roots in Arabic art and culture, connections to family/ local heraldic emblems, or are just individual guitarreros' own creations?

Would be nice to have a picture book of them.
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TANúñez

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RE: Rosette Designs (in reply to MarcChrys

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whether they have some deep symbolism, roots in Arabic art and culture, connections to family/ local heraldic emblems, or are just individual guitarreros' own creations?


All of the above. Like the headstock, the rosette is also a place where the luthier can distinguish himself with his own design. Although many luthiers use pre-made rosettes to save time, many still choose to create their own designs using mosaic tiles. Some luthiers also use solid pieces of figured wood instead of the mosaic tiles. Take a look at Anders Eliasson's rosettes. I prefer this style as I find the natural figure in wood to be very appealing and aesthetically pleasing.

www.eliassonguitars.com

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MarcChrys

 

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RE: Rosette Designs (in reply to TANúñez

Thanks. I like Anders' rosette too. I also like the geometric design on the Lester Devoe model.

http://www.devoeguitars.com/portfolio_slides.html?id=0
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TANúñez

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RE: Rosette Designs (in reply to MarcChrys

I've never been fond on that particular design. The center motif reminds me of the backstrip Martin uses on their guitars. I like the design as a backstrip for steelstrings though. I'm currently building a steel string for myself with that same backstrip.



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RE: Rosette Designs (in reply to TANúñez

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Some luthiers also use solid pieces of figured wood instead of the mosaic tiles.


check this one out.


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TANúñez

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RE: Rosette Designs (in reply to at_leo_87

I'm doing something similar to that one. That looks like Les Stansell's work.

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at_leo_87

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I'm doing something similar to that one. That looks like Les Stansell's work.


you're right. it's the la tigra one from his website.

you should post pictures when you finish. how many guitars have you made so far?
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kovachian

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RE: Rosette Designs (in reply to MarcChrys

I know whatcha mean about the mosaic rosettes, to me they have this "chunky" look to them that is somehow very appealing. Although I still like many others.






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TANúñez

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you're right. it's the la tigra one from his website.

you should post pictures when you finish. how many guitars have you made so far?


I'll post some pictures soon. Still trying to workout the whole design of the rosette but I have an idea of the woods I'd like to work with.

How many guitars have I made so far? that depends. Are we talking how many total or just the ones I'm happy with?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 16 2009 16:09:12
 
TANúñez

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RE: Rosette Designs (in reply to kovachian

kovachian,

The one on the top right looks very similar to Romanillos. That one is very classy.

I really like Aaron Green's rosettes. Very tastefully done.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 16 2009 16:11:45
 
at_leo_87

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RE: Rosette Designs (in reply to TANúñez

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I'll post some pictures soon. Still trying to workout the whole design of the rosette but I have an idea of the woods I'd like to work with.


i dont really understand how they're even made. all i know is, it looks VERY time consuming.

quote:


How many guitars have I made so far? that depends. Are we talking how many total or just the ones I'm happy with?


tell us both! what's the ratio?!
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kovachian

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RE: Rosette Designs (in reply to TANúñez

Isn't it? It's by Jason Wolverton. Well the guitar is, I don't know about the rosette but it very well could be.

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TANúñez

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Isn't it? It's by Jason Wolverton. Well the guitar is, I don't know about the rosette but it very well could be.


I see his guitars are inspired by Romanillos so that is why the rosette is similar.

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RE: Rosette Designs (in reply to MarcChrys

This is how rosettes are built:

http://www.connorguitars.com/links_tips/rosettes.html
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at_leo_87

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RE: Rosette Designs (in reply to MarcChrys

thanks for the link pgh.

that looks pretty fun. i might give it a go one day.
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