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RobJe

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RE: Zero Fret (in reply to Dudnote)

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Blasphimous zero frets and false beards - are there any women here today?

I apologise to all female guitarists for my choice of disguise - I should have said "face shielded with a folded copy of the Reyes plan!"

I think that even Stephen might believe stoning to be excessive punishment for requesting a zero fret.

Rob

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estebanana

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RE: Zero Fret (in reply to RobJe)

You guys better straighten up or tomorrow I will be very angry. Very angry, bigly mad.

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RobJe

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RE: Zero Fret (in reply to estebanana)

Stay calm - a zero fret is really nothing!

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estebanana

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RE: Zero Fret (in reply to RobJe)

Zero frets are only valid if you are making a guitar for Zero Mostel

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 24 2017 0:47:19

Anders Eliasson

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RE: Zero Fret (in reply to RobJe)

Hey, you are using the photo I took of Zero Mostel when he visited my workshop and I refused to make him a zero fret guitar.

All that said... Zero frets dont harm guitars. I´ve tried a good many Manuel Bellidos that were nice guitars. I just believe they would have been equally good with a standard nut
BTW, here´s a photo Zero Fred on his daily joyride.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 24 2017 7:02:03

RobJe

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RE: Zero Fret (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

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Zero frets dont harm guitars. I´ve tried a good many Manuel Bellidos that were nice guitars. I just believe they would have been equally good with a standard nut

Tomatito refused to have a zero fret on his 1990s Bellido. Gitanos are too hard for such things.

Rob

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 24 2017 9:23:06

constructordeguitarras

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RE: Zero Fret (in reply to RobJe)

The reason I am not interested in using zero frets is appearance. To me a Spanish guitar is a beautiful work of art, including its ability to make beautiful music. If it were just a mechanism for making music, then I would have no qualms about tweaking it in ways that would change its appearance to make it perform perhaps better. But adding a zero fret, to me, is treating it too much like just a mechanical thing, rather than a work of art.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 24 2017 12:57:40

estebanana

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RE: Zero Fret (in reply to RobJe)

Nice Zero.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 24 2017 14:34:37

RobJe

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RE: Zero Fret (in reply to constructordeguitarras)

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The reason I am not interested in using zero frets is appearance

I kind of understand - I even feel the same way about sound ports. But I need to be careful that I don't close my eyes (ears?) to something that provides genuine improvement of a guitar. So for me a guitar should be relatively austere (no fancy bits), functional and with a tiny bit of originality that enables me to identify the maker.

Rob

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 24 2017 15:05:21

BarkellWH

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RE: Zero Fret (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

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Hey, you are using the photo I took of Zero Mostel when he visited my workshop and I refused to make him a zero fret guitar.

Did Zero fret over the fact that you would not make him a zero fret guitar?

Bill

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 24 2017 15:37:17

constructordeguitarras

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RE: Zero Fret (in reply to BarkellWH)

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Did Zero fret over the fact that you would not make him a zero fret guitar?

I bet there was zero fretting over it. (Someone had to say it.)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 24 2017 17:06:49

estebanana

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RE: Zero Fret (in reply to RobJe)

In the end, for flamenco guitars, it's a zero sum game.

One has to wonder as well, why they don't call it a 'fret nut' which is actually what it is.

*ring ring*

Hello! Guitar shop, can I help you?

Yeeess sir, I'd like a quote for replacing my fret nut?

I beg your pardon?

My fret nut is bottoming out, I can't play with it, nor can I get anything out if it.

I see, may I suggest the Yellow Pages under Urology....good day sir. .....*HaNG UP*

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constructordeguitarras

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RE: Zero Fret (in reply to estebanana)

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In the end, for flamenco guitars, it's a zero sum game.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 25 2017 3:27:17

estebanana

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RE: Zero Fret (in reply to RobJe)

RING RING!

Hello Kingman's Drug Store, can I help you?

Sir, do you have Prince Albert in a can?

Why yes we do, we have Prince Albert in a can.

Well LET HIM OUT THEN! haha haha hah ahha haha !

Why you! I'll make hamburger out of your fret nut young man!!

OK then, I think I'm done here.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 25 2017 6:42:24

Anders Eliasson

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RE: Zero Fret (in reply to RobJe)

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quote:

The reason I am not interested in using zero frets is appearance

I kind of understand - I even feel the same way about sound ports. But I need to be careful that I don't close my eyes (ears?) to something that provides genuine improvement of a guitar. So for me a guitar should be relatively austere (no fancy bits), functional and with a tiny bit of originality that enables me to identify the maker.

Rob

So we the guitarbuilders are just cheap whores.

So instead of Zero frets. Why not Zero guitars.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 25 2017 6:59:20

RobJe

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RE: Zero Fret (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

Anders

I am not sure if you have been offended by my reply to Ethan’s post but no disrespect was intended.

Rob

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 25 2017 10:46:18

Anders Eliasson

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RE: Zero Fret (in reply to RobJe)

Zero Kamikaze

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 25 2017 11:15:45

estebanana

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RE: Zero Fret (in reply to RobJe)

I love the cartoon of the kamikaze pilot, but I wish the rear view mirror was not in the illustration. They really had no need to know what was behind them, one way trip.

The bigger photo with the salvaged Zero, where is that from? The Kamikaze museum in Chiran Japan?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 25 2017 12:17:51

BarkellWH

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RE: Zero Fret (in reply to estebanana)

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I love the cartoon of the kamikaze pilot, but I wish the rear view mirror was not in the illustration. They really had no need to know what was behind them, one way trip.

I think the rear view mirror was put in the illustration so that we, viewing it, could see the kamikaze pilot's eye's registering his evil intent, knowing that he was about to wipe out a few evil-smelling, white, red-haired Westerners.

While in Peleliu in the Palau Archipelago, and in Yap in Micronesia, I trekked into crash sites where Japanese Zeros were shot down and still rusting on the ground.

Bill

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 25 2017 12:47:37

constructordeguitarras

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RE: Zero Fret (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

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So we the guitarbuilders are just cheap whores.

So instead of Zero frets. Why not Zero guitars.

Anders--
I'm not sure what offended you, either. When I express my aspirations as a guitar builder, I am in no way trying to influence what other builders do. There seems to be a much bigger market for copies of historical classical guitars than for the guitars that I make, but I have no interest in making copies of anything. I feel that the guitars that I make are unique within the set of rules I've laid down for myself, which have nothing to do with customers' wishes.

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