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falsetanuova

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**Luthier made *Armrest*

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 11 2008 15:28:44

Guest

RE: **Luthier made *Armrest* **THE B... (in reply to falsetanuova)

if you payed 150 bucks for that, you got ripped off dude.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 11 2008 18:32:47

falsetanuova

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RE: **Luthier made *Armrest* **THE B... (in reply to Guest)

Thanks for your insightful comment "dude"...

Oh really??

Do find me another please....

I have returned to Kristopher Barnett's website, details can be found there, as well as additional images.

I do not mind experienced/objective criticism, yet I do mind ignorance.

Best wishes "dude"..pleased to await your suggested replacement.

P

*<EDIT: Yes, this puts John Pearse' armrest to shame as I had *actually* purchased one. Thanks>*

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 13 2008 2:36:13

TANúñez

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RE: **Luthier made *Armrest* **THE B... (in reply to falsetanuova)

falsetanuova,

Is there really an need for an armrest? Are these just for comfort? I am being serious and NOT trying to be sarcastic. I am genuinely interested in your response. All the years I've been playing, I have never thought of the idea that I needed some type of attachment for comfort. I don't play classical music so perhaps it comes down to the way of holding the guitar, in the classical position, that makes playing uncomfortable. I'm assuming that after a while, having your arm rest on the somewhat sharp edge of the guitar, tends to get unfomfortable. The armrest provides a rounded edge? I think holding the guitar in anyway for an extended period of time gets uncomfortable. For me, it's never my arms but my legs. I'll go from crossed, to both feet on the flour to a footstool.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 14 2008 8:56:52

Taranto

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RE: **Luthier made *Armrest* **THE B... (in reply to TANúñez)

quote:

All the years I've been playing, I have never thought of the idea that I needed some type of attachment for comfort.

I don't think it's for comfort, rather to keep your arm from touching the soundboard and dampening the sound.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 14 2008 10:06:26

Ron.M

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RE: **Luthier made *Armrest* **THE B... (in reply to TANúñez)

quote:

Is there really an need for an armrest?

Well Tom, I was kinda thinking that myself.
Actually I'd never heard of one before!
I've never seen a professional actually use one. (nor a "Gitano" support

)

It seemed to me a bit of marketing "must haves" for the gullible, like a Pi*sGuard "to avoid those annoying splashbacks on your trousers when using a Gentleman's urinal".....

To me it just looks like an expensive polished bent stick.

Maybe you can throw it out to the audience after an encore and it will fly around their heads and come back to you so you can catch it again?

(Ultra cool!

)

I think the native Aussies used to use them to stun kangaroos at 300 yards.
I don't know if they cost as much though...

cheers,

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 14 2008 10:18:05

TANúñez

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RE: **Luthier made *Armrest* **THE B... (in reply to Taranto)

quote:

I don't think it's for comfort, rather to keep your arm from touching the soundboard and dampening the sound.

Does the arm really dampen the sound? I'm mean think about it. If it does, I don't think it is so much that something like this is necessary. Not many people use these. At least not in the flamenco world and our guitars have to be loud enough to cut through palmas and footstomps. The arm dampening the sound does not appear to be a big problem. So, I thought this device was for comfort. Sort of like the way a lot of electrics, Fender Strats for example, have the body contoured to have more "arm comfort".

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 14 2008 10:41:20

Doitsujin

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RE: **Luthier made *Armrest* **THE B... (in reply to falsetanuova)

Could you upload a picture which shows where you put the armrest? I cant imagine how it would work..

This armrest reminds me on other great inventions like this. A must have IMO.. :.))

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 14 2008 11:02:20

falsetanuova

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RE: **Luthier made *Armrest* **THE B... (in reply to falsetanuova)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 14 2008 11:23:43

Ron.M

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RE: **Luthier made *Armrest* **THE B... (in reply to Doitsujin)

quote:

This armrest reminds me on other great inventions like this. A must have IMO.. :.))

Hey Doit!

I want one of those!
Are they only available in Germany?

Can you "transport" yourself to other parts of the Universe in that?

By the way, I only just found out today that Captain James T Kirk was Canadian and not American as I always believed!!

How my faith in the fundamentals of life has been shaken..

Somebody get me an Armrest or a Gitano to cheer me up.

cheers,

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 14 2008 12:19:54

kovachian

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RE: **Luthier made *Armrest* **THE B... (in reply to falsetanuova)

Guess we don't have many classical players here huh? I know of no flamenco players who use armrests, or footstools for that matter. Must be something about the classical style that makes people seek out the best in physical comfort or something.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 14 2008 13:24:49

gerundino63

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RE: **Luthier made *Armrest* **THE B... (in reply to Ron.M)

Hi Ron,

An armrest can be very useful for large persons,(1,95m) a frend of mine use one for a long time cause backproblems.
http://plasencia.web-log.nl/plasencia/2006/08/cushion_support.html

Btw, I saw Paco Peña use a gitano.

Peter

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 14 2008 14:28:25

gerundino63

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RE: **Luthier made *Armrest* **THE B... (in reply to gerundino63)

Here even a photo from Paco Peña using an armrest..
http://www.aulosmusic.co.kr/gd_img/bimg/WHLive0016-Pena.jpg

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 14 2008 14:34:32

TANúñez

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RE: **Luthier made *Armrest* **THE B... (in reply to gerundino63)

quote:

Here even a photo from Paco Peña using an armrest..
http://www.aulosmusic.co.kr/gd_img/bimg/WHLive0016-Pena.jpg

Poor Paco. Everyone was too embarassed to tell him he had it on the wrong side of the guitar

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 14 2008 15:29:19

TANúñez

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RE: **Luthier made *Armrest* **THE B... (in reply to kovachian)

quote:

I know of no flamenco players who use armrests, or footstools for that matter

You'd be surprised to know quite a few flamenco players use footstools. Sabicas, Manolo Sanlucar, even Paco de Lucia and Tomatito use them.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 14 2008 15:30:39

Guest

RE: **Luthier made *Armrest* **THE B... (in reply to falsetanuova)

quote:

I do not mind experienced/objective criticism, yet I do mind ignorance.

sorry your right, i have no idea what that is for. i just saw a small peice of polished wood and thought it was a bit expensive.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 14 2008 15:32:39

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RE: **Luthier made *Armrest* **THE B... (in reply to Doitsujin)

hey doit, what about the chinrest? it also doubles as a PA stand...perfect for the public transport dependant musician.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 14 2008 15:42:31

falsetanuova

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RE: **Luthier made *Armrest* **THE B... (in reply to falsetanuova)

sold

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 14 2008 17:55:19

kovachian

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RE: **Luthier made *Armrest* **THE B... (in reply to falsetanuova)

Falsetanuova, you absolutely are in the club! Everyone is. Have you tried the classical guitar forum at delcamp? There should be alot of interest there.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 14 2008 21:16:38

Florian

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RE: **Luthier made *Armrest* **THE B... (in reply to kovachian)

falsetanuova i can understand that u are a litlle fustrated by the joking but its just that mate ..relax

noone is out to offend you

Its cool if u wanna sell that, good luck i am sure there will be other classical guitarists who might see the benefit of an arm rest, u have to excuse our curiosity a litlle as we have never seen one before that's all, i was scratching my head trying to figure out how it goes on before u posted the photo lol u dont wanna know how i thought it was going to be on ( I had the other arm) lol..looked more like I got caught in a wire fence the way I envisioned it on lol lucky u posted the photo...I am sorry !

I ve never seen one before no offence to you..

there is no club amigo..everyone is equal everybodys welcome...

while i can understand your fustration dont take it too personal

perhaps its not the best idea that we making jokes on the thread where falsetanuova is trying to sell this...he is in the Classifieds section

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 14 2008 22:36:20

Ron.M

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RE: **Luthier made *Armrest* **THE B... (in reply to gerundino63)

quote:

Here even a photo from Paco Peña using an armrest..

I stand corrected Peter..

You can't get anything past you guys.

Did he do the trick of throwing it into the audience and catching it again?

@ falsetanuova,

Don't take it too seriously Paul, there's a lot of joking goes on here.

At least your advert is getting plenty exposure!

cheers,

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 15 2008 0:15:18

gerundino63

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RE: **Luthier made *Armrest* **THE B... (in reply to Ron.M)

Ron, That does he all the time! Blindfolded!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 15 2008 0:31:19

mark indigo

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RE: **Luthier made *Armrest* **THE B... (in reply to gerundino63)

quote:

An armrest can be very useful for large persons,(1,95m) a frend of mine use one for a long time cause backproblems.
http://plasencia.web-log.nl/plasencia/2006/08/cushion_support.html

there's a long (and possibly, if you're not that interested, quite boring) thread about this on the luthier section which i started by asking if anyone made large/oversized guitars and if it was possible.... i am 6'2" and have had endless back and neck pain hunching over what seems to me like a tiny guitar.

for me, the proportions are all wrong, my forearm is too long to rest my upper arm/elbow on the guitar and for my hand to hang naturally so my fingers are on the strings.... i practically have to rest my wrist on the guitar for my fingers to be in the right place over the strings.

the plasencia guy explains it here: http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v509/Plasencia/?action=view¤t=P9075019.flv

and crossing one leg over the other seems to result in twisting my spine, and pain in my back, neck and wrist/hand/finger tendons.... plus i had a cartilage operation on my left knee and it can't take much pressure of resting the other ankle on it....

so, unflamenco as it may be (has any one ever seen a gitano use a "gitano"? i don't think so), and naff as it may be (i've been through so much pain and been unable to play at all for weeks, so i don't care what i look like anymore so long as i can play) i do use a guitar support ("gitano") under the guitar, which sorts the bottom half of the equation (ie i don't have to cross one leg over the other) but i still have the problem where i am resting my right forearm on the edge of the guitar almost at the wrist....

....so some thing that sticks on the front edge of the lower bout would be ideal..... i just can't afford $100. the "gitano" rest thing cost about £20, so i'd pay about that for a right arm rest, but i really can't afford more.....

the plasencia thing would probably not suit my as it is too likely to move when i change between pulgar position and picado postion.... i might have sent off for one anyway just to try it if the exchange rate hadn't just crashed....

the webpage for the thing does sound a bit like one of those emails that go straight to spam on my pc tho'

quote:

PLASENCIA The Guitar Enlarger

hmmmm....

quote:

feel the difference .... for a really satisfying result.

ooh-er....

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 18 2008 13:13:02

Derry

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RE: **Luthier made *Armrest* **THE B... (in reply to falsetanuova)

since I do play classical and use an arm rest (Plenosom) and find them very comfortable you may want to post over on the Delcamp forum,,

www.delcamp.net/forum

go into the Luthier section and there is a for sale section there,,

don't believe you will receive the comments you have here,,

love some of the photos posted,, people sure are interesting,,

just curious when you say it is held on with magnets, are they placed inside the body and then there is metal on the actual armrest to hold it there,,??

thanks

Derry

I just check out his web site and he list the arm rest as a $150 option during the build,, there is nothing about purchasing as a single item or add on to other guitars or how it actually works,,

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 13 2009 13:09:55