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RE: Beginners flamencas at $350 versus $750: Am I getting that much more?
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Anders Eliasson
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RE: Beginners flamencas at $350 vers... (in reply to n85ae)
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Further, I think a company with the resources that for example Yamaha has, if they made a corporate decision to do it, I would bet money they could make guitars that would easily compete against Conde, or any other guitar maker. Of course that would require them to make the decision in the first place to do it. However with the money they have, and the facilities they have they certainly could do it. Jeff With all the respect of Yamaha, I must disagree. Yamaha have never been famous for making anything real top. They have tried and where they have been close has been in pianos. But nothing like a Steinway or a Bösendorfer. I have owned a couple of Yamaha steel strings, and really great instruments for their price, but I´ve never played or heard anything that really inspired me from Yamaha. Ask around. Ask professionals about clarinets, saxophones, trumpets, drums or whatever. Great quality yes.......... but maybe they just didn´t invest enough money. (money money money must be funny)
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Date Mar. 1 2008 9:43:15
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Pgh_flamenco
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RE: Beginners flamencas at $350 vers... (in reply to cathulu)
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Or how about the luthier spends 100 hours french polishing the guitar. Some luthiers sub FP to other craftsman, they buy rosettes, fret wire, tuners, saddles, nuts, bridges… There are different business models. Good instruments can be made by an apprentice. There’s a reason certain makers and luthiers have great reputations. I can hear it in the mp3’s posted online. I’ve never heard a cheap guitar sound as good. A friend of mine purchased a Yamaha 12 string, shallow-body acoustic guitar 20 years ago for $1,200. The action was way too high and the neck was bent (and not cupped the way it should have been). I tried explaining this to him for about a year. He ended up sending it to Yamaha for repair and they replaced it at no charge and this was after an additional year of trying to have it adjusted. Yamaha equipment has everything to do with a level of quality that can be had at a certain (lower) price point—no more, no less. If Yamaha wanted to produce the highest quality guitars I can’t imagine them succeeding, but I’d be willing to bet a few of their luthiers could do it on their own. In the end Ricardo is right: If you’re overwhelmingly impressed by a guitar’s tone and playability that’s what counts the most. It's too bad many of us can't afford better instruments...
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Date Mar. 1 2008 16:54:23
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Samarto
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RE: Beginners flamencas at $350 vers... (in reply to ChiyoDad)
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To answer the original question ... probably not. Find a guitar setup for flamenco and if you like the tone and action and the price is in your range, buy it. It doesn't matter what others think. I bought a small polish made guitar on sale for my Grandaughter and installed a golpe plate, lowered the action, and put on a set of LaBella strings. It sounded and played great for a beginner flamenco. Total cost including strings, etc. $125. Cathulu, In time you will know the difference in the sound of the fine guitars at Zavelletas. It is a personal preference, not that one sounds lousy and the other fantastic, just different ... one sweeter, one louder, one more rasp, one more substain, and another more growl on the basses. Also some may hear a difference in the Granada makers sound compared to the Madrid makers sound.
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Date Mar. 26 2008 13:40:24
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