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frhout
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 RE: Ivor Mairants CD (in reply to bernd)
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I have this LP but don't have the book. Music arranged by Ivor Mairants and played by Pepe Del Sur.
Side A includes Soleares, Seguidillas, Sevillanas, Alegrias, Bulerias, Tanguillo, Tientos, Cantino, Farruca, Guajira, Zapateado, Media Granadina, Fandango, Tientos, Seguidilla, Fandanguillo, Petenera, La Rosa, Serrenas, Tarantas, Solea por bulerias, Mineras, Alegrias, Soleares, Malaguena.
Side B has Tanguillo, Alegrias, Tientos, Farruca,Seguidilla or Seguiriya, Bulerias, Granadina.
I haven't listened to it for ages, bought in the early '80s. If I have a USB turntable, I'll convert it into mp3. This could be my next purchase when I have the cash.
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Date Oct. 11 2007 18:38:10
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Dave K
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RE: Ivor Mairants CD (in reply to steenland)
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Just read thru this thread for the first time. I purchased the book, "Flamenco Guitar" by Ivor Mairants at Schierson Bros in Los Angeles about 1959 or so. Its copyright 1958. Sometime later, but 1963 or before, I bought an LP "Introduction to Flamenco" Capitol LP T10012. I was surprised to find the record covered Ivor Mairants book. Side 1 covers part 2 in the book and features the great guitarist Paco Aguilera, with naration by Keith Patterson, with jelao by Rosa Flores, Soledad Jordan, and Ramon Velez.
Side 2 of the LP features guitarists Sarasate (M. Vasquez), Juanito Serrano, and Pepe Martinez playing for Cojo de Huelva and Adelfa Soto. Another guitarist, Antonio Gonzalez, is listed on the record but I'm not sure where he comes in. The book and record helped me a lot in the days that there was not a lot of info available (At least in California) about flamenco.
I don't see (or hear) any referance to Paco Pena here, but he may have been featured in other or later versions.
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Date Jul. 6 2010 4:44:09
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attila57
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From: Budapest, Hungary
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RE: Ivor Mairants CD (in reply to bernd)
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I bought an LP "Introduction to Flamenco" Capitol LP T10012. I was surprised to find the record covered Ivor Mairants book. Side 1 covers part 2 in the book and features the great guitarist Paco Aguilera, with naration by Keith Patterson, with jelao by Rosa Flores, Soledad Jordan, and Ramon Velez.
Hello Dave (and everyone),
I believe, there are two different LPs going with that book. The first one is the quoted 'INTRODUCTION TO FLAMENCO' Spanish Regal 1020, or Capitol LPT10012. This goes with section 2 of the book and played by the quoted guitarists. The other LP is called 'THE ART OF THE FLAMENCO GUITAR' & published as Spark Records SRLP 107. This latter one is played by Paco Pena and covers parts 2 & 3 of the book. It is currently available on CD and can be found and bought on the net, too, but you cannot download it. The CD should have a red front cover matching that of the book.
I'm looking for these recordings myself, too, if anyone has it as MP3.
It is easy to rip the music from the LP with any simple sound recording program.
Paco Pena is really brilliant. His Malaguena and Rumbas are unbeatable, I think.
As for he Ivor Mairants book, it's a nice old collection of palos. He uses the classical tremolo (which is more demanding for me than the 5-note one) and the notation is quite strange with all those rasgueos written as individual notes.
Once you've got used to it, you realize that he uses the same eami(i) pattern throughout.
Attila
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Date Oct. 27 2012 1:48:24
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attila57
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From: Budapest, Hungary
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RE: Ivor Mairants CD (in reply to britguy)
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Hi Mr Fruit Farmer,
It's nice to read your lines. You know, I had the same feelings as you when I first opened the book. There's a photo when Mr Mairants poses with Sabicas and Manolo Moreno, and he even got F. Moreno Torroba to write a short recommendation to his book.
I thought he must have been kinda finger in every pie guy.
And now it comes true...
Recently the book has been re-published in an unchanged format. It must have something to to do with Mr Mairants' own company but I haven't checked it. He has a big site on the net, too.
Back in the 50's he got Paco Pena and other flamenco guitarists to perform the pieces for his book, because, obviously he couldn't. Really, I think it must have been their idea (and their material) first to publish it, Mr Mairants just brought it under roof.
I'm actually looking for a downloadable version of the matching Paco Pena CD, which I'm sure, is very interesting. As I have the book they would be more interesting together, because, I feel, the notation in the book is oversimplified. According to the book all rasgueos should be the eami(i) pattern which, I suspect, cannot be true. Also, historically it'd be nice to have an overview of the trends and palos in the fifties.
So please, if someone has the LP or the CD, and he's ready to convert it to MP3 and share it with me, let me know.
As for other flamenco books, yes, there are very some good ones, and you can even donload them from faststrings.com if you register and click on 'flamenco'. There are books of Tomatito, Juan Martín, Paco Pena etc. on that site, all with videos and CDs.
Attila
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Date Oct. 28 2012 0:47:20
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attila57
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From: Budapest, Hungary
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RE: Ivor Mairants CD (in reply to frhout)
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Francis, this is great, thank you.
This recording is, I think, quite invaluable. There's not much left to us from that period, apart from this. And, it's good quality and comprehensive! All the palos as they were almost 60 years ago, at the end of the 50's. And, from one of the best flamenco performers of all time!
I've just listened to the last track (No.7) and it isn't a Malaguena but a Granaína with a lovely falseta taken from Albéniz's Asturias.
What you've uploaded must be side B of the LP.
It would be great if you could do the same to the shorter pieces and samples on side A as well.
This recording is definitely Paco Pena, his style, his rasgueos, his falsetas.
It is just as I suspected: the book is great, but you must have the recording to feel what Paco had really meant. The book just generally shows a 4- or 5-stroke rasgueo, but leaves the rest to you (which is OK), but it's nice hear Paco Pena clarifying the things.
Thanks again.
Attila
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Date Oct. 28 2012 13:26:06
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El Kiko
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From: The South Ireland
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RE: Ivor Mairants CD (in reply to eg.czerny)
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Awsome , I had a lend of that book from a guitar teacher I had years ago , and learned some bits from it , eventually he wanted it back , so I naturally , of course photocopied a few of the tunes i was interested in , and i never even thought there was a record ,, so juat now i dug them out to read along ....yes all good stuff ......
I have Bulerias ,, the Farruca , and Tientos i did have the Soleares but cannot find it any more ,,,. so really good to listen to , real thanks for posting them .
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