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Doitsujin
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RE: Guitarist, Singer or Dancer? (in reply to Zorro02)
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Well. I have still the same opinion. semi-professionell guitarrist? You shurely meant hobby-fiddler... Well if I just have to spend some time with the guitar to have the right to call me guitarrist no matter how good or bad....... Than Im a taxi-driver coz I allways drove around with my friends, Im a cook, coz I cook very often, Im an informatic coz I use my notebook every day, Im a designer coz I design my apartment, my clothes and all, Im a dolmetcher coz I speak english, german from time to time, Im a barber, coz I shave my hair by myself, Im a medical dr. coz I allways help my self when Im hurt, and Im much more.... Woow.. I would have to spend over 80years of education to get all these titles to have the right to earn money with this.... But you made it so easy. Really nice idea! Well,... In my opinion "guitarrist" is a name of an education in guitar.But if you dont work as a guitarrist, than you arent one,.. you would be workless or something different. And just fiddeling around for several years doesnt let become you one if you dont perform it.. A bit hard to discribe... In short: hobby-fiddlers arent guitarrists, no professional ones and no semi-professional ones. Ok... in some case you are right Deniz. Today I saw a band during a party at the university. They were so ****ing bad. They earn money with their ****. But you are right if you wouldnt call them musicians.... Ok... dont take my comments to hard. Im very tired now...
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Date Jul. 11 2007 22:54:24
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Florian
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From: Adelaide/Australia
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RE: Guitarist, Singer or Dancer? (in reply to Florian)
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Knowing DOit a litlle, hes probably just enjoying sterring you up. You could be a good guitarist or a bad guitarist, but you are still a guitarist. ..Or a beginner guitarist, a advanced guitarist, a terrible guitarist, a talented guitarist, a sh*t guitarist, a hopeless guitarist, a grumpy guitarist ( doit .. ) etc..etc. I am so used to Doit that i love his dark unpolitically correct humour lol, i could never get offended by him, I am such a sucker for his houmor that i would have him offend me more just so i can hear all his jokes. Inside that man lies a dark comedy genius. I love reading a thread and out of nowhere comes Doit with a comment that offends everybody or makes em cover theyr mouth in shock lol. ( doit remember the gipsy thread and your comment ? ( I knew it was wrong but i loughed my ass off anyway ) I am trying to imagine the first thing DOit would say if he meet Juan M Doit reminds me of Kramer from Seinfeld a litlle , just says what he wants, no rules, no bending, no suggarcoating I love you dude ...... just dont ever be honest with me
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Date Jul. 12 2007 7:32:51
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Florian
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From: Adelaide/Australia
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RE: Guitarist, Singer or Dancer? (in reply to Zorro02)
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Scenario.. If you the only guitarist in a city outside Spain, and everyone is treathing you like a professional, and paying you like a professional and treating you like a god, but all this time there is way better guitarists than you in Spain not even making a living... .. Sould you be feeling gulty ? I mean you know whats what, and you know what you are and what you arent but should you remind that to everyone that ever pays you a compliment ? (Yeah but dont forghet I am sh*t compared to Spain). Should you send a money tribute to Spain every month to the talented guitarists fund ? Sould you find the Spanish phone book on the internet and just call Spanish people at random and appologise to them once a week ? I mean we all know whats what, and what we are and what we deserve, but noone of us is about to turn it down just because we know theres better people than us in another country. As long as you are not lying to yourself in your head, thats all you can do. It gets too tiering burdening yourself with this, not to mention takes all the fun out of doing what you are doing. Yes i am nowhere near as good as some unknown guitarists in Spain, but i spent 11 years of my life preparing for this too, I do wanna get something for it, you do in any other profession where you spent 11 years preparing for it.
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Date Jul. 12 2007 8:46:58
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Florian
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From: Adelaide/Australia
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RE: Guitarist, Singer or Dancer? (in reply to Guest)
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HAHAH no no man , i am not taking anytthing wrong, i am just keeping ith the subject, your subject, i am not refering to myself, i dont get treated like a god and i am not the only guitarist in my city. I just wanna discuss this undiscussed topic, its always in the back of our minds, everytime someone pays us a compliment ( we always think, yeah you should hear the guys in Spain) u know what i mean ? You never talk it but its always there, in the back of your head sometimes, u know u think, I get to play At a International Guitar Festival !! but... you know whats out there, you cant help but feel like a fake..( I do anyway lol, i feel like, yeah !! i fouled them ) I am just trying to find whats an apropiate level of guilt, and how does the rest of you cope with it. every flamenco guitarist playing outside spain that ever got a compliment must have thought this in theyr mind at one time or another. Just imagine someone walks up to you after a gig and says " - That was Amazing" or whatever.. you say " Thank you " but the first thing that goes into your mind is probably something else
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Date Jul. 12 2007 8:59:29
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