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Ron.M
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 Ohhh nooo! Es Verdad???
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Tranquilo, tranquilo Amigos....
ES VERDAD!!!... OLE!!...o...jow joo say thees en Engliss???....
....Eees trooo!!..... 
Juan the Man esta aqui!!!
Hey!... que pasa?...what thee problem here with all thee grey sky and rain???
You guys no even get proper daylight here  ......
(Do not worry my friends, "La Feria" I will play for joo! )
Juan Martin's first Scottish date
JUAN MARTIN and FLAMENCO ENSEMBLE
Aberdeen Music Hall
Thursday May 24 @ 7.30pm
Top guitarist Juan Martin is to play Aberdeen Music Hall, his first Scottish date on his latest tour.
Twice voted into the world’s top guitarists, Juan Martin will perform with his mesmerizing Flamenco Ensemble on Thursday May 24.
Described by the Sunday Times as ‘A giant of the flamenco guitar tradition’, this promises to be an exhilarating evening of Mediterranean passion to stir the soul.
Named ‘Doctor Flamenco’ by The Times, Juan presents a talented line-up of musicians and flamenco dancers, exploring modern harmony, crossing over into contemporary ideas and yet retaining the great tradition within his compositions. The interplay between the bass guitar, flute, and saxophone guitar improvisation creates a crescendo of torrential passion, which is ultimately physically realised through the carnal expression of dance.
A celebrated virtuoso of the flamenco guitar, Juan Martin is based between his native Andalucia and London, although he spends much of his time touring around the world. He has a highly distinctive compositional style formed during his early years in Malaga and developed through wide experience in Madrid where he worked with, among others, Paco de Lucia and subsequently was the first to present the flamenco dance diva Eva la Yerbabuena in his company. Juan Martin was the first flamenco artist to record with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, the album ‘Serenade’ becoming a top twenty hit, and reviews of his solo compositions on ‘The Andalucian Suites’ and ‘Luna Negra’ have led to comparisons with the great Spanish composers Tarrega and Turina. Juan wrote the ‘bible’ for learning the flamenco guitar, ‘El Arte Flamenco de la Guitarra’, which is now in its ninth print as well as a dvd best seller now with Fabers called ‘La Guitarra Flamenca’.
Juan Martin and Flamenco Ensemble provide a thrilling night of flamenco music, percussion and dance that should not be missed.
Tickets are available from Aberdeen Box Office on 01224 641122 or online at www.boxofficeaberdeen.com
cheers and sorry Juan and fans...I just couldn't help myself.. 
And anyway...this post was especially for Florian 
Ron
Further goodies here for those too lazy too look..
http://www.boxofficeaberdeen.com/MoreInfo.php?e=2167
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Date May 21 2007 20:44:02
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Ron.M
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RE: Ohhh nooo! Es Verdad??? (in reply to krichards)
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Hi Kevin,
I didn't intend it to be either arrogant or negative, but simply a bit of fun...in fact I can't see anything in my post which alludes to arrogance or negativity (?)
Sure, I made a parody of Juan's accent, which is sometimes very fluent, but at times changes to this... " I no understand how to say thees word, because thees emotion is really Espanish.....", which I've heard him lapse into in some interviews.
Apart from that and a description of Scottish weather (which incidentally, I wrote practically word for word from Benjamin Escoriza's address to the Scottish audience at a Radio Tarifa concert at the Lemon Tree venue in Aberdeen and made everybody laugh, including myself.)
Maybe the understanding lies in the readers mind, not the writer?
Celebrities...Actors, Polititians, Rock Stars, Famous Musicians and Rich Folk are practically daily subject to parody...why should Juan be immune?
Juan is quite a controversial player on this Forum, so I was quite intrigued on opening the newspaper to find he was appearing here on Thurday evening.
I probably won't be going to Juan's concert, not because of Juan...but because "the harmonic interchange between sax, bass guitar, flute and flamenco guitar" is something that I'm not really interested in.
If Juan was maybe doing a solo concert, or better still, with a singer and maybe a dancer, then I would have gone.
Hope that clears things up amigo.
cheers,
Ron
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Date May 22 2007 21:30:06
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Ron.M
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RE: Ohhh nooo! Es Verdad??? (in reply to krichards)
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Thanks for your reply. It makes me feel better, I suppose.
But what i want to know is why you feel the need to parody Juan Martin?
Do you do this with other performers? I don't think so.
I think there is a large section of this forum that has a negative view of Juan Martin, and i genuinely have no idea why.
Of course, I'm relatively new to flamenco and i realise there are many brilliant performers that i have yet to discover and learn about.
But what the hell is the problem with Juan Martin?
Hi Kevin.
I think he sets himself up for it IMO.
It would be difficult to parody Tomatito, PdL, Gerardo etc...because they just let their music speak for itself.
Vincente gets quite a bit of jokey flak too, with his " moody image", although he is certainly one of the finest Flamenco Guitarists in the world.
I think the main problem is that Juan's publicity material far exceeds his peer rating, although he is a good and competent player.
I agree that he did not write his reviews or results of polls, but he is happy to quote them in his publicity for his own reasons, so he's got to accept the consequences for that as well as the rewards.
We all know that music critics for newspapers and the media are mainly "general" music lovers, probably with more of a grounding in Classical and Opera etc and have no in-depth knowledge of Flamenco, but still feel competent to air their professional views in print for the guidance of lesser mortals.
One BBC Music Broadcaster came up with this gem....
" Juan Martin is arguably the finest flamenco guitarist on the planet."
Now that is clearly and demonstratably untrue....it's not just a matter of "arguable taste".
It's like saying Tim Hennman is arguably the best Tennis player on the planet, or that Scotland has arguably the best National Football team on the planet, or England arguably has the best cricket team on the planet.
Probably this BBC guy was exposed to Flamenco for that one evening and was very impressed.
If you had to mention Gerardo, Paco, Tomatito, Vincente, Manolo etc etc...he probably wouldn't even know who you were talking about IMO.
The problem is that Juan takes such "gems" and adds them to his publicity portfolio, which leads to aficionados raising an eyebrow.
I'm not knocking Juan here, but only answering your question about how JM has such a controverial time in serious Flamenco circles.
Even forgetting about the more "modern" players...do you think that Paco Peña feels in the least intimidated that Juan was voted amongst the top 3 guitarists in an American guitar magazine?
Of course not.. but like all the above professionals I mentioned, they will never criticize a fellow professional in public, since they all know how hard it is in the Music Business.
cheers,
Ron
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Date May 23 2007 22:45:34
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andresito
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RE: Ohhh nooo! Es Verdad??? (in reply to Ron.M)
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I think that Sr Martin's playing/style/rep may have been better served by staying in Andalucia for a few more years rather than moving to England at such a young age, maybe he has isolated himself somewhat from the world of flamenco, but on the flipside (despite all the gems that show up in ads for shows or (ahem) the front of his books...) maybe he's trying to do something to get people interested in flamenco that might not otherwise have a chance to see some live playing (I don't know what the scene is like there). OK, who was the last singer or dancer he accompanied? And how many times has PDL toured Scotland?
Even if his material (and his haircut) is old-fashioned and his technique ordinary, I can appreciate that in his books he has tried to encourage people to at least try to take up flamenco guitar (with aire and compas) and learn more about other aspects of flamenco, when they might not have easy access to classes in their part of the world.  Maybe there would be less budding flamencos in the wide world without him, who knows? I have teaching material by both him and Gerhard Graf-Martinez (real name pls, anyone?) who is much more engineer-like (well he's german for goodness sake) in his explanations and, to my ear, his 'aire'.
p.s. I think Juancho's spanish accent has dropped off a lot in the time between his 'Arte flamenco de la gitarra' book/tape, which was produced in the 70's, and his later 'Solo flamenco guitar' DVD, which just looks like it was produced in the 70's
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Date May 24 2007 4:41:48
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Hugh
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RE: Ohhh nooo! Es Verdad??? (in reply to Ron.M)
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I'm quite the opposite, had it not been for me seeing Juan Martin at a festival and at a guitar workshop, I probably would not have been introduced to flamenco guitar.
When I did eventually start learning the style, I did it with his book on the subject.
I find that the book is fine for an introduction to the music. I have found that he does'nt go into the basic techniques enough, but this has been rectified by you guys on this site. A friend of mine has the Graph-Martinez book, and I had a loan of it for a while, I found that although he taught the basics far better, I preferred JM's pieces more interesting(maybe just my taste). So much so, that I am ordering the second part as soon as I've learned the present book.
I can see where you are not impressed with the guy with the over-rated and over publicised thing, but I really do like his music at the moment. Maybe in a few years my opinion will change, but for now, I'll stick with his teachings. There's not much in the way of teachers up here in the West of Scotland as far as I can see, so I have to take what info I can get at the moment.
So at least he's now got two fans on this site
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