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qustion - how to play the melodies which are in your mind?!?!?   You are logged in as Guest
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Haithamflamenco

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qustion - how to play the melodies w... 
hi guys,

i have this qustion for long time,

i can always imagine and creat melodies and falsetas in my mind, but most of the time i cant play them exactly as i thought,

whats the right proceduer to do that?!?!!?

haitham

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 2 2007 22:09:58
 
Mark2

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RE: qustion - how to play the melodi... (in reply to Haithamflamenco) 
It's something a lot of even very good musicians can't do. You need to work on playing simple things you already know in your head. Pick up your guitar and play "happy birthday" or "Here comes the bride".

Did you hit the right notes on the first try? If not try again. Now play it again but start on a different note. Now move on to another short song you know in your head.

Another exercise: Think of a single note in your head, then play it on your guitar. Did you get it right? Now two notes, etc. Now still more different intervals. Your on your way.............
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 3 2007 0:00:32
 
MarkMc

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RE: qustion - how to play the melodi... (in reply to Haithamflamenco) 
Hi haitham,

I agree with Mark2's comments as well.
Also, can you sing the tune in your head?
Or at least hum it so maybe you can record it?
Then at least you wouldn't loose the idea after time goes by...

peace,
Mark

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 3 2007 1:35:49
 
Haithamflamenco

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RE: qustion - how to play the melodi... (in reply to Haithamflamenco) 
amazing guys,

thank u alot

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 3 2007 1:57:35
 
edgar884

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RE: qustion - how to play the melodi... (in reply to Haithamflamenco) 
Learn the modes brother.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 3 2007 2:45:02
 
jrabbani

 

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RE: qustion - how to play the melodi... (in reply to edgar884) 
or drop acid.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 3 2007 3:24:53
 
edgar884

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RE: qustion - how to play the melodi... (in reply to Haithamflamenco) 
Yep that works too.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 3 2007 4:11:12
 
duende

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RE: qustion - how to play the melodi... (in reply to Haithamflamenco) 
pick any small tune, children song or something and play it by ear.
also try to hum a line (melody) just over a bar or to and then play it.

you have to do this a lot to controll it.

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koella

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RE: qustion - how to play the melodi... (in reply to Haithamflamenco) 
I agree with all of the above.
But let me add one thing:
I think one of the most common mistakes is that you loose the melody when you play the wrong notes. By playing the wrong notes the original melody in your head gets messed up. So try to memorize the melody very well before you try to play it. Or try to hum and record it before you try to play it on your guitar.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 3 2007 9:12:01
 
Haithamflamenco

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RE: qustion - how to play the melodi... (in reply to Haithamflamenco) 
quote:

or drop acid.


???!!!!

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 3 2007 11:54:37
 
jrabbani

 

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RE: qustion - how to play the melodi... (in reply to Haithamflamenco) 
quote:

I agree with all of the above.

well at least someone else agrees with me
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 3 2007 19:07:46
 
Gummy

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RE: qustion - how to play the melodi... (in reply to Haithamflamenco) 
I remember seeing a video of Stanley Jordan? years ago. He had a computer play random midi notes. He could select how many notes he wanted. He would then try to play the notes to match what the computer played. It was kind of a guitarists version of the game "simon". It looked like a great way to do what you are asking about. It also gave him melodic inspiration when he heard pleasing random notes.
Rod
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 3 2007 22:35:15
 
Mark2

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RE: qustion - how to play the melodi... (in reply to Gummy) 
You can find litle ear training programs like that online. just google.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 3 2007 23:28:39
 
John O.

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RE: qustion - how to play the melodi... (in reply to Mark2) 
Getting the flow of melodies in your head under control is another common problem. It's easy to get off the path and hit a dead end.

Basically you just need to practise it. Continually try composing things and play them again a day later to see if you still like them. Flamenco composing is patchwork, a falseta here and a falseta there. Some things will be good, some things will be crap. Just don't give up.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 4 2007 7:19:36
 
Ricardo

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RE: qustion - how to play the melodi... (in reply to Haithamflamenco) 
The way to bridge the gap is to develop your technique and rhythm so your ideas can flow. That means you have to know the neck to some degree and are able to improvise without losing the time.

Ricardo
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 5 2007 14:12:12
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