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Zorro02
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Look at this Tàrrega 1978 anniversary model. The guy I brought my Brune from is also selling this special classical model.
This particular shape confers a particular sound to the instrument, also due to the presence of a narrow wood-band, called risounder, that surrounds, from the inside, the oval hole. Such hole is made precious by a national mosaic. The resonance chamber and the bridge are made of Jacarandà da Bahia, while the harmonic board is made of Red Cedar. The keybord is in Ebony da India and the neck is in Cedar. The head has the usual hand-made wood carving. The machine head, in golden steel, has exagonal ambered keys. The instrument measures: height cm 99; max width cm 36,5; resonance chamber depth cm 10,5. Weight kg. 1,900.
It is up for auction next week maybe ebay, maybe not!
Have you any idea the guy expects to get fot it?
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Date Apr. 2 2007 13:28:03
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Zorro02
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RE: A challenge!! (in reply to Zorro02)
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Here is the description, can the price/valuation possibly be true? Please tell me because I can not see how a guitar can be worth so much
"The model is Tàrrega 1978 An
Many of the most famous brasilian artists such as Tom Jobim, Joao Gilberto, used this guitar to the achieve the sound of the likes of :
“The Girl for Ipanema”
“Corcovado” known as “Quite Nights of Quite Stars”
“Insensatez” known as “How insensitive!”
and many more Bossa Nova hits
This model is named Tàrrega. Such name, due to a Reinaldo Di Giorgio's initiative, who decided to dedicate an instrument to a famous spanish guitar player called Francisco Tàrrega. The guitar was built was born 1978 and completed by 1985 and is called the 1878 anniversary Model and I bought it on march 1st 2006. The Tàrrega guitar, has a curious peculiarity: it has an oval hole. This particular shape confers a particular sound to the instrument, also due to the presence of a narrow wood-band, called risounder, that surrounds, from the inside, the oval hole. Such hole is made precious by a national mosaic. The resonance chamber and the bridge are made of Jacarandà da Bahia, while the harmonic board is made of Red Cedar. The keybord is in Ebony da India and the neck is in Cedar. The head has the usual hand-made wood carving. The machine head, in golden steel, has exagonal ambered keys. The instrument measures: height cm 99; max width cm 36,5; resonance chamber depth cm 10,5. Weight kg. 1,900.
The emotion that you can feel when you play a "Di Giorgio" Tàrrega. models form 70's and 80's is uncomparable, since you are allowed to taste, much more deeply and intimately, the warmth and the sweetness of that extraordinary music which is Bossanova. Now let's see, a little bit better, the principal models of the production
"Di Giorgio" classical guitars boast a tradition which is almost one hundred years old. They represent not only one of the main artistic expression in the field of guitar luthery, but also the essence of the brasilian music itself, bossanova in particular. Many of the most famous brasilian artists such as Tom Jobim, Joao Gilberto, Roberto Carlos, Marcos Valle, Dorival Caymmi and many more, helped to write Di Giorgio's history.
The factory "Violões Finos Romeu Di Giorgio" was established in 1908 by Romeu Di Giorgio, born in Rome - Italy, in 1889. He was a pupil of a lutemaker who built violins, and here he started to learn the secrets and the techniques of this fine art. Step by step, the factory "Di Giorgio", initially small-sized, turned into an effective industry specialized in acoustic instruments (guitars, violins, violas..) often used by european immigrants who arrived in Brasil in the first decades of the XXth century.
During the 40's, under the name "Indústria e Comércio de Instrumentos de Cordas Di Giorgio Ltda", the factory moves to São Paulo and in this period it develops, in particular, the production of violões (acoustic classical guitars). Such instruments, become very soon popular and start to sign the typical brasilian musical tradition. During the 60's, as soon as Bossanova was born and under the direction of the Founder's son, mr. Reinaldo Di Giorgio, "Di Giorgio" brand devotes itself as the main high-class guitar (violões) supplier for musicians and composers rising in that musical context.
Actually established in Franco da Rocha, in the state of São Paulo, with a huge productive surface and a large number of employers, the factory "Violões Di Giorgio", under the direction of mr. Reinaldo Di Giorgio Junior, still produces different models of violões and it confirms itself as one of the best world manufacturer in the field of an inimitable high-class luthery.
Owning a "Di Giorgio" guitar, does not mean to have one of the best "violões" only, it also means to enjoy the chance of holding in your hands and playing an instrument that made the history of Bossanova and that is actually the soul itself of the brasilian musical tradition."
Well What do you Think??
Is it worth the estimate of.........
$449.000.00, yes nearly half million big ones!
Can this be true?
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Date Apr. 2 2007 22:20:25
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Alberto
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From: Italy
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RE: A challenge!! (in reply to Zorro02)
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Interesting! If this is the original Joao Gilberto Guitar then it could quite easily justify in excess $500K but it has to be real deal.
I think you will learn that even Jimmi Hendrix ,Paul McCartney , Quincy Jones, Sting, and all the other famous guitarist’s would have bowed down and took their hats off for Joao Gilberto as this is man who created this complex, infectious, colour harmony known as Bossa Nova.
I have been playing flamenco now for over 14 years of which I feel have been wasted after learning what I’ve missed out on “ The brazilin harmony of bossa nova” .Of course flamenco will always stay with but it's no longer my desire.
As much as I do love Flamenco it is not comparable with the likes Joao and with the detailed analysis of his harmony ,chords and colour you will all come to same conclusion that it’s not even in same league. Just to give an idea Some of his song can contain over 50 different chords which many time more than any flamenco songs
The trouble is that once you get into flamenco you become a frog in a pond and you can’t see outside of this pound where a whole new world of colour and beauty, seductive moods exists that awaits you. For what it’s worth I highly recommend that you all listen and watch very carefully at what this man does on with his voice and the guitar, his chords are oh so beautifully awesome.
Listen to some his sample track:
http://www.amazon.com/Amoroso-Brasil-Jo%C3%A3o-Gilberto/dp/B000002MHX
I warn you all now it is very extremely infectious! and you will leave the Flamenco world. * * * (Don’t say that I didn’t warn you) * * *
If there is someone who can be called the greatest guitarist of all time it would have Joao Gilberto.
He may not be familiar in the Flamenco world but once you guys realise what he does with only six nylon strings it would the Beginning of the END of Flamenco.
Joao Considered one of the most original artists and one of the most influential musicians of modern times, Joao Gilberto lives in Rio de Janeiro and performs at festivals and concert halls around the world.
He is 78 years old and he is the still the best in the world.
If I was a millionaire then I would gladly be prepared to invest in Joao’s guitar provided it is the original as described 1978 and authenticated Luthiers signature by Di Giorgio but unfortunately I’m not YET.
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Date Apr. 4 2007 10:44:10
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RE: A challenge!! (in reply to Alberto)
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Alberto
You seem to miss the point that flamenco is cante and neither needs nor wants 50 chords per song. Bossa nova is wonderful music but flamenco is pure feeling.
Sean
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Date Apr. 4 2007 13:30:33
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Jon Boyes
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RE: A challenge!! (in reply to Alberto)
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Alberto
The trouble is that once you get into flamenco you become a frog in a pond and you can’t see outside of this pound where a whole new world of colour and beauty, seductive moods exists that awaits you.
Well actually for this frog it was the other way round.
As someone who played rock, metal, blues then studied classical for several years, latin ( including Bossa and I still play one of Gilberto's most famous solo works)... when I finally got into flamenco I realised how much time I had been wasting on the other stuff 
South American music has some cool rhythms, and Bossa is fine (though it has to be said, a little cheesy), and yep, you got some cool chords, but you know what? It never ceases to amaze me what the best flamenco players can do with ONE chord.
PS harmony cannot be syncopated 
PPS we got cool chords too.
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