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I use both. I like the look of the trad cejilla. It is like jewelry for the guitar. But I have snapped the string on stage before. I more often use good ol Dunlop to be safe. I don't like the look of the shub and other such modern designs.
I use mostly trad. capo because they are light and beautifull. I have a shubb, but its to heavy and ugly. Please dont use Dunlops on French Polished guitars.... They eat shellack and might even damage the neckwood. They are easy to use, but..........
I agree..the Kyser is too strong for the finish on flamenco guitars...the shubb is just right...its not that heavy and is easily adjustable...just make sure you get the one specifically for the classical-flamenco guitar as it is flat as opposed to the curved ones. As for the cejilla...its beautiful and lighter, but a pain in the a** to quick change in the event of a broken string.
This is the Capo I use. Would it be a modern version of a traditional capo?
By the way, hello! I'm new to the forum i guess i will make an introduction here . My name is Sebastian, i've been playing guitar for 13 years. I've been a long time fan of flamenco since i was a child. So after years of playing different forms of music i have finally reached the point where i can no longer resist learning the style of music i adore.
Well, this looks like a good place to learn from experienced players and there is a great atmosphere on this forum. I look forward to contributing.
The finish on any guitar will wear on the neck from playing over the years and it isn't a bad thing. A nice worn in guitar feels better and has more character too it :)
romerito: did you mean explain how that capo works or why you have wear on the neck of the guitar?
Just wondering how many people here use a more traditional style Cejilla and how many people use a newer style Capo like a Schubb or Kyser and why.
In Spanish you use the word Cejilla, and Italian Capo. As far as I know they mean the same thing. Who started this differentiation between the two words is a question. Capo’s have been around for as long as Cejilla’s.
The advantage of a Shubb is that it is easy, fast and accurate to use. My Ebony Capos look nice but can be a serious pain during an event.
So my vote is to not vote. I cannot see the difference.
This is what I use . The string I use on my cejillas will never break. But I probably use a Dunlop more than anything even thought they lack any artistic sensibility.
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Over the years I´ve seen quite a few guitars with marks from Dunlop style capos because the strap which is quite roughly wowen kind of "rasps" the neck finish when you tighten the capo.
The Dunlop has many advantages. Its cheap, its small and the lever doesn´t come in the way. Disadvantages. Makes holes in the pocket of your trousers , looks ... ....well, and IMHO its the one giving most tuning problems, because the whole construction twists the strings when you lock it and also because it puts a lot of pression on the strings. Capos dont need to be locked with a lot of pressure in order to funcion.
shubbs: pro: very sturdy. lasts forever. makes no damage on guitar and makes a very subttle pressure on the strings if adjusted well. contras: big, heavy and needs adjustment when moved if your guitar neck does not have the same thickness all the way.
Trad. Capo: Pro: light, beautifull (handmade) and adjusts the pressure very well. IMO, its the best for tuning because you can adjust the capo lightly, tune and then tighten it a bit more. This gives the strings the posibility to move underneath the capo while tuning. Contras: The string might snap (only if you misuse it by tightening it to much!!!!!) The peg might be in its way on most designs (not ykabban´s) The peg/hole must be well fitted in order to work well.
Look at this page, there are some really weird ones (look at the one called Elton) , but also nice ones.
The first capo I had was a König & Meyer (which can really destroy the neck of a guitar) now I have a Shubb. Now I'm looking for a trad. cejilla, where my initials are on.
I don't know what to say, sure i use them but to me a capo isn't that special. If it breaks i replace it and thats about all the thought i give it I mean, i wouldn't keep a photo of it in my wallet or anything. Im trying to think of something more interesting to add here.... ehhh, i got nothing.
A traditional capo looks fine but the handling isnt 100% perfect. The dunlop-capos are looking normal, dont restrict my movements and are easy and quick to use. I wouldnt buy a guitar when it looks but is hard to play. The same with capos. I dont wanna mode with my guitar,.. just wanna play.
Has anybody had any experience with the Ned Steinberger designed capo for Planet Waves. Seems like a nice compromise. Maybe the effectiveness of a Shubb but much lighter.
Traditional cejillas are pretty, but I've not come across one yet that allows you to play in tune! The pressure they exert across the six strings never appears to be even. I use Shubb's because they are quick, accurate in tuning, and you can operate them with one hand.
This is such a wonderful 'anorak' thread - I love it! Guitarists' capacity to analyse the small details never ceases to amaze me. Maybe I should start (another!!!) thread on strings - would probably attract more hits than the news that Camaron has recorded a posthumous CD!! Karenanne
PS Please don't take offence - I have time on my hands and this is meant in a light hearted way!
According to good ol' Juan Martin 'cejilla' means eyebrow ? I love the look of trad cejillas but that chord, mm..! the Bb inversion with 4 notes held on the first fret is tricky clashing with the thumb turn on a trad. Dunlops are great and reliable and easy to fit, so long as the flap points up and not down the way. If it's put on with the flap pointing down (to the floor) it can accidentaly flick off when you form chords down there.
This is such a wonderful 'anorak' thread - I love it! Guitarists' capacity to analyse the small details never ceases to amaze me. Maybe I should start (another!!!) thread on strings - would probably attract more hits
Why dont u right a tread on how many taks u have in your dance shoes, and wot brand taks they are?
No seriously, its a pity there arent more dancers here because for the most part it must be boring for u reading thru all the guitarist talk. Im not sure there is a forum quite like this one where the focus is on dance rather than guitar, or is there? Well this one is ment to be for dancers too but they dont seem to jump in that much, maybe u should rope a few more dancers in to join the foro.
That is C9 going to Bb9#11. So finger both chords sort of the same way, so the peg does not get in the way. Middle finger does a half bar on the 6th and 5th strings, index on 4th string or on the Bb it gets out of the way. Ring and pinky handle the other notes. The peg does not get in my way usually.
Remember that a capo is a very important thing in a guitarists life. I would quote it the fourth most important. First two, guitar and strings (you cannot play without) next, facial expression (this is about respect, you have to look flamenco) Now comes capo. essential for playing with cante. Next comes important things like having half long hair in the neck, sitting position, a tiny bit of belly etc....... (all important)
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. My name is Sebastian, i've been playing guitar for 13 years. I've been a long time fan of flamenco since i was a child. So after years of playing different forms of music i have finally reached the point where i can no longer resist learning the style of music i adore. 
, looks ... ....well, and IMHO its the one giving most tuning problems, because the whole construction twists the strings when you lock it and also because it puts a lot of pression on the strings. Capos dont need to be locked with a lot of pressure in order to funcion. 
I mean, i wouldn't keep a photo of it in my wallet or anything. Im trying to think of something more interesting to add here.... ehhh, i got nothing.
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