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Moron style - Tabs material ?
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legrec
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Joined: Jan. 26 2006
From: France
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 RE: Moron style - Tabs material ? (in reply to Francisco)
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Thank you Samwise, perhaps you're speaking about Agustin Rios, one of Diego del Gastor nephew ? (Thanks to my friend Ted in California, who just gave me the info).
But I don't think he's selling transcriptions. The only reference to tabs my friend can give me is for the 110$ material I was speaking about in my first post (at http://www.gypsyflamenco.com/).
I would be glad to have this but will wait a little to have the dought.
So my first aim would be to transcribe the Aire fresco version by Carlos Becerra, that I really find "fenomenal" (Diego del Gastor feeling, but with a moden playing style). But a very knowledgeable man on this foro will perhaps do it...we'll keep you informed for sure...
I've read that old threat on the Moron style but it seems that in the end, there is not much Moron's transcriptions around. I can find some falsetas from Paco, Diego and Dieguito de Morón here and there, but not an extensive book on this style. Hmmm...perhaps it would be a good idea to throw to Alain Faucher, Claude Worms or whomever..
Tom : you're right, the ó makes the difference in Morón. I'm planning to go there next summer, since I'm really not far (I'm from the south of France).
As it seems you're a Morón afficionado (like Sendero if I don't mistake), how did you learned the style ? By playing along with the recordings ?
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Date Jan. 6 2007 2:07:38
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TANúñez
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Joined: Jul. 10 2003
From: TEXAS
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RE: Moron style - Tabs material ? (in reply to legrec)
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quote:
Tom : you're right, the ó makes the difference in Morón. I'm planning to go there next summer, since I'm really not far (I'm from the south of France).
As it seems you're a Morón afficionado (like Sendero if I don't mistake), how did you learned the style ? By playing along with the recordings ?
That's really all I play. I know a few things from some of the current players like Tomatito(my favorite), Moraito, etc.etc but there's something about the Morón style of playing that just grabs me and forces me to listen.
It's not very easy though I'll tell you that. It's very rhythmic driven with strong thumb work. If it's not played in a certain way, it won't really sound Morón. It's hard to describe. I have the material from GipsyFlamenco. It's the best material out there and really the only complete material. Ton's of stuff. Expensive but worth it if this is what you want to learn.
I watch Diego vids over and over and pic them apart to learn. I've also had the good fortune of knowing a few guys here in the States that studied with Diego back in the late 60's and they have told me everything I needed to know to have any chance of success at playing this material correctly.
I've gotten a lot of recordings of Diego recorded in private settings that I also study. So much to learn!!!
What I really like about this "style" is the rhythm. Especially the Bulerias. Carlos Beccera is one of the best I've heard. The guy is from Diego's birth place. Another guy who comes close to Diego is his grand nephew, Paco de Amparo. He's the guitarist for Son de la Frontera. IMO, he's the closest to Diego's playing. More than the nephews. Keep an eye out for the guitarist Daniel Mendez(Dani de Morón) You'll hear of him soon.
For the record, I have not learned this style but "trying" to learn this style. I'm from Texas, don't know how close I can get to being puro. 
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Tom Núñez
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Date Jan. 6 2007 4:52:00
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srshea
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Joined: Oct. 29 2006
From: Olympia, WA in the Great Pacific Northwest
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RE: Moron style - Tabs material ? (in reply to legrec)
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legrec,
I purchased Evan Harrar’s (the gypsyflamenco.com guy) Diego book as well as the rhythm lesson last year and I’m very happy with what I got. The question as to whether or not this material is worth the high price seems to come up pretty frequently, and I myself balked at the price before finally buying the stuff. Whatever reservations I had vanished once I got the package. The transcription book is quite long, 400+ falestas, I think) and it came with five CDs of Diego’s playing as well as a disc of Harrar playing the falsetas in the order they appear in the book. It’s true that this stuff isn’t cheap, but most flamenco transcription books aren’t: the Worms/Faucher books run about 45-50 bucks each- but when you consider the quantity and quality of the material involved I think it’s worth it. If you’re really serious about learning to play Diego’s music, not just picking up a few falestas here and there but really immersing yourself in the style, then this is as good as you’re going to find as far as self study goes. Start saving!
However, having said all that, I should point out that what you’re going to learn from the gypsyflamenco material (ideally) is how to play Diego’s stuff as he played it. If you want to play like Carlos Beccera in the sample that flamencoguru posted, I’m not really sure how far Harrar’s book is going to get you in that direction. To my ears that sample has a much different feel and rhythmic approach than Diego’s actual playing (the video clip that flamencoguru posted last summer is quite a bit closer, I think), which isn’t to say it’s good or bad, better or worse- just considerably different. Since you’ve already made plans to travel to Moron you might want to see if you can get Beccera’s contact info from flamencoguru and then try and make arrangements to meet up and study with him. Straight to the source. Ain’t no transcription book in the world that can beat learning from the guy who you want to play like!
Good luck.
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Date Jan. 7 2007 23:16:12
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