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constructordeguitarras

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New finish sounds interesting

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 11 2024 17:36:22

estebanana

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RE: New finish sounds interesting (in reply to constructordeguitarras)

I didn’t like the presenters attitude, he says finishes with VOC’s that require solvents are under attack by the government. But m glad the government is giving oversight and limits to nasty solvents and finishes with VOCs . He’s also missing the fact that there are in case of us instrument makers, outfits that make oil resin varnishes in small bespoke batches and they are not prohibitively expensive.
If in the case of a furniture maker or a cabinet shop with high volume, and China produces all that stuff now without a lot of environmental oversight, then there already exist co polymer UV curing products.

Sure this looks like an interesting finish, but it’s highly proprietary and I was unable to get any information about how it’s formulated.
And what are its properties in regard to damping etc.

I’m tempted to put myself in danger of being set in my ways and sticking with shellac 😆

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 12 2024 12:51:54

Firefrets

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RE: New finish sounds interesting (in reply to constructordeguitarras)

The test at the end was odd, as I'd actually want to know what harms / removes it, rather than what won't. You have to be careful with UV light also.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 13 2024 8:40:42

bftobin

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RE: New finish sounds interesting (in reply to constructordeguitarras)

There are a number of UV cure finishes on the market. Some cure almost instantaneously. I believe Cardinal Finishes sells sealers, pore fillers and topcoats that will cure in just a few seconds with a UV lamp. Be sure to wear UV protective eyewear.

Brent.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 15 2024 15:32:15

Jim Frieson

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RE: New finish sounds interesting (in reply to constructordeguitarras)

Clea Armor US Patent 10,307,940 excerpt :
The acrylate monomer may include monomers as known in the art, e.g., one or more of ethylene glycoldi(meth)acrylate, tetraethyleneglycol-di(meth)acrylate, poly(ethylene glycol)dimethacrylates, the condensation product of bisphenol A and glycidyl methacrylate, 2,2′-bis 4-(3-methacryloxy-2-hydroxypropoxy)-phenyl]propane, hexanediol di(meth)acrylate, tripropylene glycol di(meth)acrylate, butanediol di(meth)acrylate, neopentyl glycol di(meth)acrylate, diethylene glycol di(meth)acrylate, triethylene glycol di(meth)acrylate, dipropylene glycol di(meth)acrylate, allyl (meth)acrylate trimethylolpropane triacrylate, tris(2-hydroxy ethyl) isocyanurate triacrylate, tricyclodecane dimethanol diacrylate, and combinations thereof.
The thiol monomer/oligomers may include thiol monomer/oligomers as known in the art, e.g., one or more of, ethylene glycol bis(thioglycolate), ethylene glycol bis(3-mercaptopropionate), pentaerythritol tetra(3-mercaptopropionate), trimethylolpropane tris(3-mercaptopropionate), pentaerythritol tetra(2-mercaptoacetate), trimethylolpropane tris(2-mercaptoacetate), 1,6-hexanedithiol, 1,2-benzenedithiol, 1,3-be
Keeping your carbon footprint low and all that good environmentally compliant stuff.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 26 2024 6:11:27