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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2006 3:06:15

henrym3483

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RE: Rumba by Juan Martin (in reply to Guest)

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Let me ask you...
What have you done to make this a better place ? Besides making comments here and there, anyone can do that, what actions have you acctually taken to make it a better place or help anyone here ith more than just a couple of words ? And if you have done something have you done it more than me around here ?

flo no one every doubted your sincere and helpful contribution to this website, you are appreciated by alot of us including myself for the educational materials and compas tools you have kindly given.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2006 7:39:18

tluczek

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From: Poland

RE: Rumba by Juan Martin (in reply to Guest)

I spent 4 days with him and his wife. Great people, very nice, helpful, friendly, Juan really cares about flamenco and gets mad when someone calls him an Englishman :)
The concert here was great, maybe some of you just didn't hit into his best appearance, he tours too much, sometimes two weeks day after day, maybe that influences his playing. Here he rested (and practiced) for 3 days and gave such a good solo concert that Poznan hasn't seen for long time.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2006 11:50:35

Romanza

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RE: Rumba by Juan Martin (in reply to Guest)

I saw Juan play in London recently and really enjoyed it... but then what would I know, I'm just a beginner!!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2006 16:03:57

PacoPaella

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RE: Rumba by Juan Martin (in reply to Guest)

Foro Flamenco is very lively today! Thats sweet, but i hope when all the dust and smoke are gone noone lays on the floor...

As for Juan Martin...i dont get the exact Crime he commited. For me, hes more or less like Paco Pena - solid, reliable pro guitarist who sticks to the stuff he knows. I would go to see him because hes certainly better than 80% of the stuff you get to see outside spain. At the same time, i am well aware that there are better guitarists out there. But hey, hes a pro, he has to market himself! Same thing every pro here on the forum has to do. Grisha puts his videos on his page. When he receives an awesome review he will ut it on his page. Who wouldnt??? Do you know any professional in any category who, after receiving a good review, would stand up and say "Hey this is wrong, i am not nearly that good please hire this guy over there instead of me!" I think not.

What has he done? It is after all not his fault that people think hes that great! I'm really a bit puzzled about what exactly you accuse him of. Please enlighten me...and please dont take it personal, ok?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2006 17:24:17

Florian

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RE: Rumba by Juan Martin (in reply to PacoPaella)

I am not sure who the question is directed at but i will tell you my story....

Hes done nothing wrong, he does what he can thats fine , good for him, his books are very helpfull, hes a wonderfull person.

I tought his technique and compositions were weak in the video to begin with for a pro who uses such a quote.

It dosent matter to me what he does, i dont care i as just giving my opinion openly as you would if u didnt like a movie. Its like its something sacred , "who are you not to like him" , "wheres your respect" is like i have to be a frekin god to have an opinion.

His music does nothing for me, sorry i wish it did it would be alot easyer around here but it dosent.

Some people around here put down modern flamenco everyday and thats ok its a talk forum, we talk, we all have opinions we all have taste, but then it got presonall and thats what really pissed me off. when someone tells me who am I to have an opinion.

and thats what happen as I see it.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2006 17:54:45

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2006 18:43:51

XXX

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RE: Rumba by Juan Martin (in reply to Guest)

Hm, I already replied earlier, but you constantly are saying the same thing over and over again, ignoring my answer(s). What kind of behaviour have you expected from me, facing yours?
Wheres your problem?

"They argue to be right..." well, as everybody does. Otherwise any discussion would loose its goal: Finding the right thing.
"...and that is it" yes, that is indeed what its all about: Presenting your view and the reasons you have for it. What more can somebody do in a discussion?

Ps: Its enough to sent me a message, as youve done. And next time, try to keep the swear words for yourself, please.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2006 19:13:35

Florian

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From: Adelaide/Australia

RE: Rumba by Juan Martin (in reply to Guest)

Now i am lost

I tought i was arguing with someone but i cant remember who cause now u guys are arguing..

and i am confused about whos arguing with me and whats going on (am I in this argument ?) should i be saying something

i dont know what going on anymore

I tought you 2 made up anyway

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2006 19:29:45

koella

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From: holland

RE: Rumba by Juan Martin (in reply to Thomas Whiteley)

Well Florian, I think you made your point

They all hit the road !
And as for Thomas, what a wonderful way to describe himself:

quote:

ORIGINAL: Thomas Whiteley
Just call them closet flamenco guitar players. Being a critic is easy. They have not done much to interest or teach others flamenco but they know it all.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2006 20:05:46

Ron.M

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From: Scotland

RE: Rumba by Juan Martin (in reply to Guest)

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There are always immature and stupid people in these forums.

No, Shroomy...there aren't.
Only differing views..

Some, of course will not agree with others, based on their own opinions and experiences.

Everyone...don't take all this stuff personally for heaven's sake!

It's just a heated discussion where we test our opinions and ideas.

That's all!

cheers

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2006 20:10:59

Florian

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RE: Rumba by Juan Martin (in reply to koella)

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Well Florian, I think you made your point

thanks Koella

I am not proud of this, infact i am really embarassed i got dragged down to that.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2006 20:52:10

koella

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RE: Rumba by Juan Martin (in reply to Guest)

Don't be embarrassed Flo.
Sometimes the "hide-your-message-in-a-light-remark" thing isn't working.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2006 21:13:55

Florian

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RE: Rumba by Juan Martin (in reply to koella)

lol thats funny

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2006 21:18:45

Thomas Whiteley

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RE: Rumba by Juan Martin (in reply to Florian)

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It dosent matter to me what he does,

That is more than difficult to believe. If it did not matter to you then why have you spent so much time bashing him and creating a Poll? As I recall this is not the only thread you have expressed your dislike for Juan Martin.

I think we got the message – you do not like Juan Martin. Is that close to what you are trying to say over, and over, and over?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2006 22:40:30

Florian

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RE: Rumba by Juan Martin (in reply to Thomas Whiteley)

thomas did i mention i dont like Juan martin ?

anyways did u check the poll lately ? the people have spoken :-) everyoner that put a cd out is open to review.

atlist i didnt turn it personall against any user here.

anyway wheres that damn block user button

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2006 22:43:54

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RE: Rumba by Juan Martin (in reply to Florian)

Florian doin palmas for Juan.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2006 23:54:26

Florian

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 22 2006 0:05:00

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RE: Rumba by Juan Martin (in reply to Florian)

Florian doin palmas for Elton John.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 22 2006 1:43:49

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RE: Rumba by Juan Martin (in reply to Guest)

Florian doin palmas for a left handed, strat playing chimp.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 22 2006 3:42:54

Florian

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RE: Rumba by Juan Martin (in reply to Guest)

hehehe now u just getting silly :-)

ps, i am left handed

u remind me of that kid that says a good joke and everyone loughs and that encourages you and you repeat the same joke all night till everyone avoids you by the end..

Anyway i was Spfies party last night, it was great we had a laugh..

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 22 2006 10:07:20

Ron.M

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RE: Rumba by Juan Martin (in reply to Guest)

LOL! Dominic...
I liked how it got progressively sillier.
I almost fell off my chair laughing at the strat playing chimp pic.

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 22 2006 10:30:14

Florian

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RE: Rumba by Juan Martin (in reply to Ron.M)

dont encourage him,i know him too well, i know what hes doing right now, thinking of what else he can add the photo

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 22 2006 11:22:24

Guest

RE: Rumba by Juan Martin (in reply to Florian)

no dude thats it, but your right i could go on all night pushing a dumb joke.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 22 2006 11:34:24

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 22 2006 15:56:00

Ron.M

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RE: Rumba by Juan Martin (in reply to Guest)

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but you must distinguish between these two. There are ALWAYS trolls in these forums. I can't belive you have never crossed one of their paths!

Shroomy....Do you mean Florian and Deniz?

Na! man...I'm constantly arguing with them over some damn thing or another.

Just too tired at the moment

But they ain't trolls.

cheers

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 22 2006 16:45:59