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devilhand

 

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Composing falseta 

Enrique de Melchor plays his own falseta at 0:14-0:29. It sounds like a short flamenco piece with no compas. One can't track down the underlying beats. It's played libre.

Can we say falsetas except for traditional ones are mostly composed free of musical meter?



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xirdneH_imiJ

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RE: Composing falseta (in reply to devilhand

It is perfectly in compás. The tempo changes and with experience you will have no trouble finding the beats. Of course you won't be able to do palmas for this sort of thing, but it's really very-very common (especially in soleares).

"Can we say falsetas except for traditional ones are mostly composed free of musical meter?"
Hard no, especially when the palo itself is metered. Even with the weirdest seguiriyas where it seems impossible to find the meter, it's nearly always there, but the tempo changes. Sometimes for a few measures, sometimes for just a few beats.
You will always find exceptions to most rules, added extra beats, half compáses, but if somebody knows what they're doing (eg. not your average YouTube guitarist who records didactic material after learning how to play a few chords) then you can be certain that the material will fit into compás.

Edit: Transcribed the bit so maybe it helps with understanding of the concept - a transcription of this kind is often subjective of course, so my job when transcribing pieces and falsetas like this is to best understand how the bit fits into compás.




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RE: Composing falseta (in reply to xirdneH_imiJ

That is very useful, thanks for doing that.
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RE: Composing falseta (in reply to xirdneH_imiJ

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It is perfectly in compás. The tempo changes and with experience you will have no trouble finding the beats. Of course you won't be able to do palmas for this sort of thing, but it's really very-very common (especially in soleares).

Thanks for the reply. I almost forgot rubato playing in Solea.

Btw, which software did you use for tabbing the part above? Did you type everything on your own into this software or is it automatically transcribed when you upload an audio file to it?

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xirdneH_imiJ

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RE: Composing falseta (in reply to devilhand

I use Guitar Pro 6 (they're on version 8 now but I prefer 6 because it's a much friendlier interface) and it's all manual. There's no software that can input audio into tab. There are sites where you can get chords, but nothing close to the accuracy you'd need to learn something like this.
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