RE: A new flamenco guitar vs used flamenco guitar

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estebanana

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RE: A new flamenco guitar vs used fl... (in reply to Richard Jernigan)

Nada in Bermudo, but if we were all in Bermuda, we could vote devilshand off the island.

Walk the plank matey.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 12 2023 4:56:02

Arash

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RE: A new flamenco guitar vs used fl... (in reply to devilhand)

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ORIGINAL: devilhand

Look at what he does at 1:16. Sorry it's not right hand flamenco technique.

yeah and even modern players don't know how to play flamenco guitar techniques properly.
look at 0:10 , its both, not left hand and right hand flamenco technique ,,, showmanship abominations which can not be accepted and should be called out

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 12 2023 9:30:39

estebanana

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RE: A new flamenco guitar vs used fl... (in reply to estebanana)

Tony Rey?

Who is this guy anyway??

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 12 2023 11:44:40

Richard Jernigan

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RE: A new flamenco guitar vs used fl... (in reply to Arash)

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ORIGINAL: Arash

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ORIGINAL: devilhand

Look at what he does at 1:16. Sorry it's not right hand flamenco technique.

yeah and even modern players don't know how to play flamenco guitar techniques properly.
look at 0:10 , its both, not left hand and right hand flamenco technique ,,, showmanship abominations which can not be accepted and should be called out

This Rey guy is an incorrigible perpetrator. He does it again at 2:43 and 3:59. Each time he slows way down after the harmonic, while the cajonista keeps playing bulerias compas. Rey must have been ashamed of himself. Eventually he recovers, catches up and starts playing bulerias again. I couldn't stand to watch any further. /s

I will apply to the Flamenco Technique Police to have his Flamenco License revoked, as soon as devilhand gives us the FTP's contact info.

RNJ

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 12 2023 19:33:46

Ricardo

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RE: A new flamenco guitar vs used fl... (in reply to devilhand)

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I wish I never saw it.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 12 2023 19:59:31

devilhand

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RE: A new flamenco guitar vs used fl... (in reply to Arash)

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ORIGINAL: Arash

Where's flamenco? If it were flamenco I'd have joined this forum.

https://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 12 2023 22:08:00

Ricardo

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RE: A new flamenco guitar vs used fl... (in reply to devilhand)

I hear that Oud is built for a tinny tone, and most front rank Oud players change their instruments frequently because in time any Oud mellows

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 13 2023 11:40:13

Stu

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From: London (the South of it), England

RE: A new flamenco guitar vs used fl... (in reply to devilhand)

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ORIGINAL: Arash

Where's flamenco? If it were flamenco I'd have joined this forum.

https://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/

hey devilhand what do you mean?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 13 2023 12:46:31

Ricardo

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RE: A new flamenco guitar vs used fl... (in reply to Stu)

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ORIGINAL: Stu

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ORIGINAL: Arash

Where's flamenco? If it were flamenco I'd have joined this forum.

https://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/

hey devilhand what do you mean?

he is under the false impression that flamenco comes from Arabic music, the Oud players who accompany makam singers exemplify this in his confused mind. he does not find harmonics used in proper flamenco so would rather hang out at the OUD forum which is clearly more flamenco than Sabicas and friends here.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 13 2023 13:22:30

estebanana

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RE: A new flamenco guitar vs used fl... (in reply to Ricardo)

What are you talking about Ricardo?!
Flamenco is little more than Arabic Bluegrass music. 😂

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 13 2023 17:11:27

devilhand

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RE: A new flamenco guitar vs used fl... (in reply to Stu)

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hey devilhand what do you mean?

I've fallen in love with the beautiful sound of oud. I wanted to explore it more and mistakenly I ended up with flamenco. I would never have started my flamenco journey because of solo flamenco guitar of Sabicas or Paco. The only reason is the sound of oud. After 5 years of flamenco journey I already started liking flamenco as an art. Particularly cante accompaniment and falsetas that sound like a melody run played on oud. My fav flamenco guitar technique is thumb. Who knows, maybe I'll buy my first oud before I get my first flamenco.

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I hear that Oud is built for a tinny tone, and most front rank Oud players change their instruments frequently because in time any Oud mellows

The mellower the better.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 13 2023 22:05:04

estebanana

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RE: A new flamenco guitar vs used fl... (in reply to estebanana)

Old Islamic proverb:,

The oud is the voice of god, the devils hand must never touch it.

Old flamenco saying:

Should the hand of the devil stroke the guitar, the guitar will become ten fold against Debel. Or be rendered into a bell of clay.

Inshallah

I’m not so sure this is a good journey for you…

It’s still not too late to take up golf, where the devil’s hand is constantly in play.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 13 2023 23:52:58

Auda

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RE: A new flamenco guitar vs used fl... (in reply to devilhand)

I can relate. My first draw to flamenco was by listening to zambras.

Cheers

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2023 1:12:32

Ricardo

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From: Washington DC

RE: A new flamenco guitar vs used fl... (in reply to Auda)

I fell in love with Zombie movies, and mistakingly found Zambras and flamenco. Now I like both. (Just kidding I hate zombie movies after Return of the Living Dead).

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2023 13:47:05

JasonM

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RE: A new flamenco guitar vs used fl... (in reply to silddx)

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You know, I'm getting on for 60, and the older I get the more I realise I know absolutely fack all. And it's a lovely feeling to be a sponge, a sponge that does not require self-wringing of its malformed contents in vain attempts to impress others, like I used to.

Amen. Well, I’m mid 40’s but headed in that direction lol!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2023 16:24:38