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devilhand

 

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Clothes and accessories for a flamen... 

I heard folks saying flamenco is a way of life. We already discussed long hair. Now the question is
What are the must have accessories and typical clothes for a tocaor? You know it's all about looking authentic and good.

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RobF

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RE: Clothes and accessories for a fl... (in reply to devilhand

Just dress like any picture you’ve ever seen of Johnny Depp. It may not have anything to do with how an authentic flamenco tocaor looks, but if you can pull it off, who cares? If you can’t pull it off then just wear black and smoke Marlboro Reds like the rest of us.
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mt1007

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RE: Clothes and accessories for a fl... (in reply to devilhand

devilhand, i would say play good as in play whatever but in compas. no one will even notice what you're wearing if you do so. look at the best players... vicente doesnt even wear shoes on stage.

okay but apart from my opinion. the clothing trend mostly i mostly see in young guys is vests man... or button up shirts with ties... etc.... boots, those cloth bracelets, pimped out hats, pea-cocking apparel, etc
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Richard Jernigan

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RE: Clothes and accessories for a fl... (in reply to devilhand

Here ya' go:



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BarkellWH

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RE: Clothes and accessories for a fl... (in reply to Richard Jernigan

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Here ya' go:


Yep. There was a time when most tocaores wore a suit and tie when performing: Sabicas, Carlos Montoya, Ramon Montoya, Nino Ricardo, and a dozen others, including Paco de Lucia.

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orsonw

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RE: Clothes and accessories for a fl... (in reply to devilhand

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You know it's all about looking authentic and good.


Yes, be authentic to who you are. Generally speaking wearing black is enough.
Don't try to be something you are not, don't put on a costume, either in terms of clothes or attitude. Flamenco is about a genuine expression.

Personally I appreciate the way maestros dressed in suits in the past. In my case, in general one could accuse me of being a peacock anyway. So I even dress down a bit for performing because as the guitarist it's not about you. Though I might, for example, break out some snake skin shoes on occasion.





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orsonw

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RE: Clothes and accessories for a fl... (in reply to devilhand

Here's Juan el Pirri dressed old school in suit hat etc.. and next to him Tomatito dressed unusually casual in a t-shirt - but the power coming out of his guitar!

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gerundino63

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RE: Clothes and accessories for a fl... (in reply to devilhand

take boots or long socks.
If you sit like Paco, you will not see skin.
Also a shirt with sleeves is handy. It is often warm, and this way no sweat on your guitar.
Watch out wit cuffings.
If you’re dressed as an artist, the audience aspect an artist, so that is settled.
Make sure you are comfortable in what you wear.
Playing in a tuxedo is possible.

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Ricardo

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RE: Clothes and accessories for a fl... (in reply to devilhand

this for Rumba



Ps, tomate misses the first tono on the first and third letras. (C, he plays G). I also use short sleeves these days.

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AndresK

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RE: Clothes and accessories for a fl... (in reply to Ricardo

Oh dear lord I laughed so hard and it is a bit late here now my wife and son got worried
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devilhand

 

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RE: Clothes and accessories for a fl... (in reply to orsonw

Thanks for the input guys. Yes, one can't go wrong with a black dress.

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be authentic to who you are.

Definitely. No doubt this is my style. But I prefer long sleeves.



The way he dresses in this video is just not for me. Those boots, pants and shirt even though it looks so flamenco.



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take boots or long socks. If you sit like Paco, you will not see skin.

Never thought about it. Why do you think so?

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gerundino63

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RE: Clothes and accessories for a fl... (in reply to devilhand

If you sit crossed legged, your trouser leg is rolling up a bit, and shows more leg than with your feet down. If you see skin, under your trouser leg, above your socks, well, it in not gentleman like, and what ever you dressed with, do not loose your cool!.

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devilhand

 

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RE: Clothes and accessories for a fl... (in reply to gerundino63

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ORIGINAL: gerundino63

If you sit crossed legged, your trouser leg is rolling up a bit, and shows more leg than with your feet down. If you see skin, under your trouser leg, above your socks, well, it in not gentleman like, and what ever you dressed with, do not loose your cool!.

Thanks gerundino63. You're a gentleman.

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RobF

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RE: Clothes and accessories for a fl... (in reply to devilhand

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What are the must have accessories and typical clothes for a tocaor? You know it's all about looking authentic and good.


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The way he dresses in this video is just not for me. Those boots, pants and shirt even though it looks so flamenco.


The guys you posted are gitano flamencos and, as gerundino63 advises, have dressed for the occasion. A lot of the street performers in Granada do dress up for their shows, actually. Gerundino also nailed it with respect to showing skin with crossed legs - it’s a bad look.

Here’s the same guy performing with a lad from Barcelona. Note the sartorial use of black, vests (as mentioned by mt1007), and scarves. Pack of Marlboro Reds? Check. One common item not mentioned is the use of Polka Dotted shirts and scarves. I’d be careful with those unless you grew up around it, subtlety would be the operative word if you went that route.




All in all, you’ve been getting some pretty good advice here. El Pirri could easily pass for Johnny Depp in his vid. Honorable mention has to go to orsonw for rocking snakeskin shoes with his Blanca. It’s great! Even the shot of Rambo isn’t that far off the mark.

It all points to being comfortable in your own skin, while being aware of your role during the occasion, and showing respect for the audience by demonstrating a level of care towards your presentation.

Tongue in cheek, maybe, but actually a pretty good thread.
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xirdneH_imiJ

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RE: Clothes and accessories for a fl... (in reply to devilhand

As a guitarist who mainly accompanied dance, I was usually asked to wear all black. This is so the dancer can shine and I can remain hidden on stage not drawing too much attention to myself :D
I always hated this but it makes some sense. As a soloist I'd say anything you want but don't be too extravagant. Some great examples posted above. Then again you can check thousands of videos what people usually wear.
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devilhand

 

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RE: Clothes and accessories for a fl... (in reply to RobF

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El Pirri could easily pass for Johnny Depp in his vid.

Steven Tyler is another dude who has the similar style. Maybe Johnny Depp copied him.

quote:

Then again you can check thousands of videos what people usually wear.

The way they're dressed fits into flamenco. Nuno can be the tocaor and S. Tyler the cantaor.



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