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Cante for Farruca
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Ricardo
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From: Washington DC
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 RE: Cante for Farruca (in reply to Mark2)
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ORIGINAL: Mark2
I was watching a movie last night about the Cave of Altamira and was struck by the beauty of the area. Anyone ever spend time in the north? Is there any flamenco happening up there? Looks like an amazing place to visit.
One of the things that most surprised me when I got into flamenco is to learn how Spaniards view gitanos and flamenco, especially people from the north area there. The integration of Gitanos and this flamenco culture seem to have a lot to do with the small geography down in Andalucia surrounding the Guadalquivir/Cadiz. That is the source, and it later spread to the Levante, most likely this working class of miners (mineros) carried flamenco traditions (fandango mainly) with them eastward. Of course major cities invited professional artists (Madrid Barcelona etc), but for the most part, the gitanos were marginalized elsewhere so if you find flamenco artists it is unusual. Sabicas for example learned flamenco guitar from vinyl records of Montoya, such that flamencos were shocked that a guy from Pamplona knew how to play so well, not being from “the cradle”. It was still the case into the 1970s, even though flamenco had already become global. I met a family from Aragon and the young daughter loved to dance, not just Jotas and stuff but flamenco as well. Mama could not comprehend why her daughter wanted to do the dance of “those gypsies”, as she remembered how they had to gather them ALL up in her town and “get rid” of them. That would not have been too long ago.  
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Date Aug. 5 2022 16:39:02
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Richard Jernigan
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Joined: Jan. 20 2004
From: Austin, Texas USA
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RE: Cante for Farruca (in reply to Ricardo)
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ORIGINAL: Ricardo
I met a family from Aragon and the young daughter loved to dance, not just Jotas and stuff but flamenco as well. Mama could not comprehend why her daughter wanted to do the dance of “those gypsies”, as she remembered how they had to gather them ALL up in her town and “get rid” of them. That would not have been too long ago.
Some years ago I met a friend of a friend. He raised toros bravos in Andalucia, and said he "hated flamenco."
In 1991 I took the daughter of one of my best American friends out to dinner in Madrid. She was attending university there. She spoke fluent Spanish before goiing to Spain, since her mother was from Mexico City, and they often spoke Spanish at home while she was growing up.
During dinner at Botín we were almost constantly serenaded by the tuna from her university. (She favors one of her Mexican aunts, a fair skinned blue-eyed strawberry blonde.) While the tuna briefly moved to another table, she mentioned that Gitanos had killed a policeman the previous week, presumably because he had arrested a member of their clan.
I was astonished. She was a little suprised at my reaction. I explained that if it had happened while Franco was still alive, the Guardía Civíl would have gone out and killed the first 25 Gitanos they came across.
Then they might have begun to investigate who actually killed the policeman.
RNJ
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