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TrickyFish

 

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Must-listen Flamenco albums? 

I’m relatively new to flamenco and would like to listen to the “landmark” album recordings.

I’m looking for the “kind of blue” or “dark side of the moon” of Flamenco.

What are the “must-listen” flamenco albums?
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tele

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RE: Must-listen Flamenco albums? (in reply to TrickyFish

El Indio Gitano – Nací Gitano Por La Gracia De Dios
Must listen album.

Another must listen album would be Santiago Donday's album with Paco Cepero.

About so called landmark recordings, how about early albums from Paco de Lucia and Camaron?

Personally I prefer the lesser known flamenco albums, some of them are really incredible. Many albums like this can be found in other genres also, I mean little known albums that are better than the mainstream in some ways.

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devilhand

 

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RE: Must-listen Flamenco albums? (in reply to TrickyFish

To me Antologia de Cante albums are a must.

Magna Antología de Cante Flamenco 10 CD Label: HISPAVOX
Medio Siglo de Cante Flamenco 4 CD Label: ARIOLA
Antología de Cante Flamenco 8 CD Label: Serlibro

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RobF

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RE: Must-listen Flamenco albums? (in reply to TrickyFish

There really isn’t an answer for this, and any choices for seminal works are bound to be highly personalized, but I’ll give three ‘starter kit’ or ‘gateway’ recommendations:

‘Tauromagia’ by Manolo Sanlúcar
‘Almoraima’ by Paco de Lucía
‘La Leyenda del Tiempo’ by Camarón de la Isla

The last one might be a tad debatable, but undoubtedly was a landmark.

To be more general, almost anything by Camarón with Paco de Lucía or any solo work by Paco de Lucía could be considered seminal. There are others, of course.
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Ricardo

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RE: Must-listen Flamenco albums? (in reply to TrickyFish

For singing, Rito y Geografia video collection on youtube.

For guitar Ramon montoya complete collection
Fantasia Flamenca Paco de lucia
Tauromagia Manolo sanlucar
Jucal Gerardo Nunez
Vivencias Imaginadas Vicente Amigo.

Also the “Flamenco” movie by Carlos Saura.

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Morante

 

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RE: Must-listen Flamenco albums? (in reply to Ricardo

For conocimiento

Carmen de la Jara

Toreros gaditanos en la génesis de flamenco; grabado en directo en la Peña de Nitri

Guitarra: Juan José Alba
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TrickyFish

 

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RE: Must-listen Flamenco albums? (in reply to TrickyFish

Thanks for evryone’s feedback.

There is much to listen to!

I have bought several of these albums already and I’m sure I’ll buy the rest in the future.
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RobF

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RE: Must-listen Flamenco albums? (in reply to TrickyFish

Believe it or not, streaming services such as Apple Music have a lot of flamenco. For any selection, there will generally be suggestions for similar artists, so you can spend some time exploring. You can also listen to curated lists.

Then there is Canal Sur’s FlamencoRadio if you want to listen to a variety in the background. You’ll have to google this one. Listening to the radio is good if you are learning Spanish, as it helps tune your ear to everyday speech, so that’s a bonus.

If you like the concept of building knowledge of the forms, in addition to the selection Morante recommended, you could listen to Manolo Caracol and Melchor de Morena’s “Una Historia del Cante”. Caracol was one of the greatest Cantaors of the last century, from the epochs preceding Camarón. Melchor de Morena* was no slouch on guitar, either. Other great cantaors did similar works.

Another thing worth mentioning is don’t be afraid to find and listen to stuff that you actually enjoy. By this I mean there will be some time spent tuning your ear and acquiring tastes, not unlike developing your nose or mouth to wines or whiskeys, where new flavours and scents may take some effort to recognize and appreciate. An artist like José Mercé put out a lot of music at the beginning of this century that he called “Flamenco for everyone” which mixed traditional forms with more contemporary selections. These are well produced and highly listenable albums featuring some of the best performers on accompaniment, such as Vicente Amigo and Moraito on guitar, and can help initiate you into the broader world of flamenco.

*<correction> Melchor de Marchena. Thanks Ricardo.
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Fluknu

 

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RE: Must-listen Flamenco albums? (in reply to TrickyFish

That website is interesting: https://www.music-map.com/

It's an algorithm, but you get to see the artists connections. If an artist isnt'in it, you can add his name, and hopefully they will add him.

Flamenco is represented, but to some extent only.

An interseting way to discover music and artists.
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Ricardo

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RE: Must-listen Flamenco albums? (in reply to RobF

Marchena

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runner

 

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RE: Must-listen Flamenco albums? (in reply to TrickyFish

If your interest lies in traditional cante, or you find you are drawn to it, the series of CDs released by Le Chant du Monde featuring an individual singer per disc are excellent. They are titled Grands Cantaores du Flamenco, and include most of the greatest singers of the mid-20th century.

A favorite album of mine is the classic Decca LP Danzas Flamencas, put together in Madrid in the mid-1950s by Jose Greco and featuring Rafael Romero and Manolita de Jerez singing, often accompanied tastefully by Greco dancing, probably the finest recording he ever made, and a wonderful example of the mix of guitar, song, and dance as might have been featured in a tablao. The guitarist(s)? are not identified but likely included Triguito, who was a favored accompanist for Manolita.

Some others are Cante Gitano, Nimbus NI 5168; Early Cante Flamenco, Arhoolie CD-326; Terremoto de Jerez, a Philips CD; and the 2-CD compilation Ellas dan El Cante, Mujeres en el Flamenco, rtve Musica 62095.

There are more, but that's a start.

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Morante

 

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RE: Must-listen Flamenco albums? (in reply to runner

The cantaores tell me that they listen and learn from Caracol, Mairena and Tomás Pavón.
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RE: Must-listen Flamenco albums? (in reply to runner

quote:

A favorite album of mine is the classic Decca LP Danzas Flamencas, put together in Madrid in the mid-1950s by Jose Greco and featuring Rafael Romero and Manolita de Jerez singing, often accompanied tastefully by Greco dancing, probably the finest recording he ever made, and a wonderful example of the mix of guitar, song, and dance as might have been featured in a tablao. The guitarist(s)? are not identified but likely included Triguito, who was a favored accompanist for Manolita.


Jose Greco and his dance troupe are not much mentioned in this or any other flamenco fora. Nevertheless, a teen-aged Paco de Lucia toured with the Jose Greco Flamenco Dance Troupe in the early sixties. It was around 1963-64, that Paco met both Sabicas and Mario Escudero in New York City while with Jose Greco. Both, of course, became early mentors to Paco.

Bill

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Ricardo

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RE: Must-listen Flamenco albums? (in reply to TrickyFish

Some favorites:






As much as I respect Mairena, Chocolate and Platero sure gave him a run for that Golden Key prize.

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Morante

 

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RE: Must-listen Flamenco albums? (in reply to Ricardo



The Soleá de Frigones is a work of art.
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runner

 

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RE: Must-listen Flamenco albums? (in reply to TrickyFish

More about Paco, Pepe, and Jose Greco. If one listens to the brothers as Los Chiquitos de Algeciras as the brothers were in 1962, and then goes to YouTube and keys in Jose Greco El Alma del Flamenco, you will come up with 4 tracks, very clearly recorded, that may well feature Paco and Pepe some years later, when Pepe's voice deepened and matured. The tracks are Llanto Andaluz, Punta Umbria, La Isla and Aires de la Caleta. Nothing is identified, but my notion is that we are hearing the brothers as members of Greco's company and doing some tasty stuff. Greco was many things--certainly an egomaniac who often kept the identities of many in his troupe a deep, dark secret--virtually no gitano singers or guitarists are named in his autobiography--but these unusual recordings show him to have been generally a man of taste in his more private moments.

I would be interested if others also believe that the brothers are the artists in these recordings.

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RobF

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RE: Must-listen Flamenco albums? (in reply to Ricardo

quote:

Marchena

Lol, yes. Sorry. I’d like to blame this on autocorrect, but everybody knows that would be a lie, lol.

Man...TrickyFish, you’re getting some really good stuff here. The real deal goods, as they say.
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RobF

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RE: Must-listen Flamenco albums? (in reply to Morante

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For conocimiento

Carmen de la Jara
Toreros gaditanos en la génesis de flamenco; grabado en directo en la Peña de Nitri
Guitarra: Juan José Alba

Thanks for this one. I’ve been listening to it every day since you mentioned it.
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Richard Jernigan

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RE: Must-listen Flamenco albums? (in reply to RobF

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ORIGINAL: RobF

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For conocimiento

Carmen de la Jara
Toreros gaditanos en la génesis de flamenco; grabado en directo en la Peña de Nitri
Guitarra: Juan José Alba

Thanks for this one. I’ve been listening to it every day since you mentioned it.


I'm late to the party, but finally realized I should give it a try.

You can order the CD from deflamenco.com, or download an MP3 version on Amazon. In the USA flamenco-connection-the-guitar-gallery.com has Carmen's 2 CD set "Tesoros del Cante Antiguo Gaditano" and some others.

RNJ
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Morante

 

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RE: Must-listen Flamenco albums? (in reply to Richard Jernigan

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download an MP3 version on Amazon


The CD contains an extensive booklet expaining the genesis of each cante.
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