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RE: What sounds "modern"? (in reply to devilhand

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I read somewhere on the foro someone saying Worms' transcription is a bit complicated. He seems to make it unnecessary tricky. Maybe it's just the way he plays.


Not really. I think most of his transcriptions are ok, but some parts are just wrong.

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RE: What sounds "modern"? (in reply to devilhand

I find them easy to use. I trust him to write down single-note melodies, but I’m not convinced by all his right hand fingering indications. I’m sceptical of the part where he effectively claims to be able to hear the difference between xam-iix-ami-i and mii-ami-iam-i played at speed on recordings from the 1910s.

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I’m sceptical of the part where he effectively claims to be able to hear the difference between xam-iix-ami-i and mii-ami-iam-i played at speed on recordings from the 1910s.


cd order got mixed up and cancelled, but there are lots on youtube:













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RE: What sounds "modern"? (in reply to mark indigo

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there are lots on youtube:


Great find! I recognise a lot of the falsetas from the Worms transcriptions, including the one at the end where he starts it but she cuts him off with more singing so he goes again after she’d finished.

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RE: What sounds "modern"? (in reply to Brendan

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ORIGINAL: Brendan

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there are lots on youtube:


Great find! I recognise a lot of the falsetas from the Worms transcriptions, including the one at the end where he starts it but she cuts him off with more singing so he goes again after she’d finished.


If you go through and find the time stamps where Worms is transcribing from, you can get a bunch of opinions to choose from.

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RE: What sounds "modern"? (in reply to Brendan

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Great find! I recognise a lot of the falsetas from the Worms transcriptions, including the one at the end where he starts it but she cuts him off with more singing so he goes again after she’d finished.


I haven't even listened to all of these yet, but was getting in such a muddle between the bulerias numbering and the CD volume numbering I just bunged em on here.

Anyone know what the rasgueado at 0.22 in the first video [Bulería No. 1: El Castillito (Entré Yo en Ese Castillito)] is? Or, more relevant to the Worms transcriptions, the one at the end of that video at 2:52? Sounds like 4 strokes per beat to me, but it's pretty fuzzy and slowing it down doesn't even seem to help much.

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Anyone know what the rasgueado at 0.22 in the first video [


Probably i up a m i down, 4 per beat like Cepero does ... or p up a m i down like Melchor and Morao do.

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